[ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for 1/11/2011
- From: "Walter Katz" <wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ambrishv@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'IBIS-ATM'" <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:32:57 -0500 (EST)
Ambrish,
(root(ffe(-1 is an AMI parameter as it would be passed into the
parameters_in string
The second case of multiple parameters with the same name should be
illegal.
Walter
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[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ambrish Varma
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:28 PM
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Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for 1/11/2011
Hi Arpad,
Thanks for posting this draft. I have a couple of quick questions about
some of the text on page 4 where you say:
|* A branch in the .ami file is an "AMI Parameter" if it
|* contains the leaves Type, Usage, and any of the following
|* leaves:
So in this example:
(Model_Specific
(ffe (Description "FFE taps")
(-1 (Usage In) (Type Float) (Value 0.0) (Description "precursor"))
(0 (Usage In) (Type Float) (Value 1.0) (Description "main cursor"))
(1 (Usage In) (Type Float) (Value 0.0) (Description "post-cursor"))
)
)
is ffe an AMI Parameter or is -1 an AMI parameter?
Also - down the page it is mentioned:
|* and does not contain another branch. Multiple leaves
|* containing the same reserved word are not allowed within
an
|* AMI Parameter branch.
But what about multiple sub-branches having the same name?
For example:
(Model_Specific
(Main_Param
(Param1 (Usage In) (Type Float) (Value 0.0))
(Param1 (Usage In) (Type Float) (Value 1.0))
(Param1 (Usage In) (Type Float) (Value 0.0))
)
)
I recently saw this in an .ami file.
We can talk about this during the ATM teleconference call if you want.
Thanks,
Ambrish.
Ambrish Varma | Member of Consulting Staff
P: 978.262.6431 www.cadence.com
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[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:24 PM
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Pressed the Send button instead of the Attach button...
Sorry,
Arpad
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From: Muranyi, Arpad
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:23 AM
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Subject: RE: [ibis-macro] IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for 1/11/2011
Attaching new version of Typos BIRD draft to be discussed in today's
meeting.
Arpad
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Agenda
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1) Opens
2) Call for any related patent disclosures
3) Review of ARs:
Arpad: Update the Typos BIRD draft according to the comments received
- done
Bob: Start email discussion on leaf/parameter name interchangeability
- not done
Arpad: Finish examples in BIRD 116-118 presentation
- in progress
Any AR-s?
Old ARs:
Arpad: Review the documentation (annotation) in the macro libraries.
- deferred until a demand arises or we have nothing else to do
4) Typos_Format_Value_Default BIRD draft
- added "(defined below)" for Default
- added words to disallow duplicate leaves in the same branch
- removed the "graceful" stuff
- moved editorial notes on the bottom to background information
5) BIRD 116-118
- Arpad's analog model BIRDs
6a) BIRD 123
- jitter parameters
6b) BIRD 124
- dependency table
Remaining Task List items:
==========================
Row 18: What is the ambiguity between Format and Text Strings?
- waiting for an answer
Row 21: According to the BNF, the Format = Table syntax is invalid.
- If Format is removed, this s not a problem, but if Format
is there the problem still exists. Do we need to fix this?
- we will address this when talking about Table
Row 22: The syntax for a leaf is:
(Row 22 in Task List)
<leaf>: ( <parameter name> whitespace <value list> )
So in a Table which is written like this: (-50 -0.1 1e-35),
-50 is actually a parameter name, i.e. a string, not a value.
-deprecate Table back to List?
- we will address this when talking about Table
Row 23/24: Fix the two tables to reflect what is in the text
- need someone to volunteer to write a BIRD
- Bob agreed to do this after the Asian Summit
Row 25: Define relationship between Type and Format
- discuss Walter's suggestions
- need someone to volunteer to write a BIRD
Row 26: What is Row 26 all about? Is it the same as Row 47?
- waiting for an answer
Row 33: Is AMI_Init restricted to change first column of impulse_matrix
only?
- this needs to be discussed
Row 35: Clarify questions about impulse response
- this needs to be discussed
Row 38: Clarify Fangyi's questions on Usage
Row 46/47: Remove certain parameters and keywords
- this needs to be discussed
Thanks,
Arpad
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