Sorry, I forgot to add the attachments for today's discussions (Task List and Typos BIRD draft). Arpad =================================================== -----Original Message----- From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:16 AM To: IBIS-ATM Subject: [ibis-macro] IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for 10/19/2010 Time: October 19, 2010 Noon US Pacific Daylight Time ===== Audio: ====== Voice dial-in: (800) 637-5822 International: +1 (647) 723-3937 <--- (For Canada) 0114501530 <--- (For Sweden) 0201400572 <--- (For Sweden Toll Free) 069509594672 <--- (For Germany) 08001014542 <--- (For Germany Toll free) Access Code: 685-0440 Web === Click Here to Join Live Meeting: http://tinyurl.com/yvmesj or: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sisoft/join?id=NKQQN3&role=attend&pw=TP8j %23-%25%7E5 Mentor Global Crossing Teleconference commands: http://www.globalcrossing.com/customer/collaboration/cust_ready_access_t ips.aspx FIRST TIME USERS: To save time before the meeting, check your system to make sure it is compatible with Microsoft Office Live Meeting. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda ====== 1) Opens 2) Call for any related patent disclosures 3) Review of ARs: Arpad: Update the Typos BIRD draft - remove Format from all examples, but keep it in text - include Walters suggested text for Default - done Arpad: AR from Open Forum on BIRD 114.2: Update BIRD 114.1 to include statements on escape characters in strings, and correct multi-line misinterpretation possibilities - pending response from Anders Arpad: Write parameter passing syntax proposal (BIRD draft) for *-AMS models in IBIS that is consistent with the parameter passing syntax of the AMI models - done Arpad: Propose a parameter passing syntax for the SPICE [External ...] also? - done Any other AR-s? Old ARs: Arpad: Review the documentation (annotation) in the macro libraries. - deferred until a demand arises or we have nothing else to do 4) Discuss Arpad's Typos_Format_Value_Default BIRD draft 4a) What is the ambiguity between Format and Text Strings? (Row 18) 4b) According to the BNF, the Format = Table syntax is invalid. (Row 21 in Task List) - If Format is removed, this s not a problem, but if Format is there the problem still exists. Do we need to fix this? 4c) The syntax for a leaf is: (Row 22 in Task List) <leaf>: ( <parameter name> whitespace <value list> ) So in a Table which is written like this: (-50 -0.1 1e-35), -50 is actually a parameter name, i.e. a string, not a value. -deprecate Table back to List? 4d) Need rules for Description (Row 27) - Bob suggested to make it optional. - should it be required for Model Specific and optional for Reserved parameters? 5) Fix the two tables to reflect what is in the text (Rows 23-24) - need someone to volunteer to write a BIRD 6) Define relationship between Type and Format (Row 25) - discuss Walter's suggestions - need someone to volunteer to write a BIRD 7) What is Row 26 all about? Is it the same as Row 47? 8) Is AMI_Init restricted to change first column of impulse_matrix only? (Row 33) - this needs to be discussed 9) Clarify questions about impulse response (Row 35) - this needs to be discussed 10) Define/clarify rules about parameter string for DLL (Row 36) - this needs to be discussed (Walter says it is in the BNF except for Table) 11) Clarify what AMI parameters Usage out are used for (Row 37) 12) Clarify Fangyi's questions on Usage (Row 38) 13) Add: "It is only the leaves of a parameter tree that can have Usage defined for them" (Row 39) - need page number - need a volunteer to write a "Usage BIRD" for rows 37-39 14) Need page number for item in Row 40 - Could be added to Typos BIRD 15) Add version control parameter to .ami file (Row 41) - need someone to volunteer to write the BIRD 16) Remove certain parameters and keywords (Rows 46, 47) - this needs to be discussed 17) Discuss BIRD 119 - let's keep this to high level comments, requests today and go into details after we have an overall feeling on what we want to do Thanks, Arpad ===================================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe