Again, what is your point? Be specific. Scott McMorrow President Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC (401) 284-1827 On Apr 9, 2011 2:13 PM, "Walter Katz" <wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Scott, > > > > I fully agree, thus BIRDs 121, 122, 123, 124, 128, and the Backchannel > BIRD which is in it's infancy. But there should be nothing to prevent an > Model Maker putting out information to a User that the User can use any > way the User wants to. > > > > Walter > > > > From: Scott McMorrow [mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 2:09 PM > To: Walter Katz > Cc: IBIS-ATM > Subject: Re: [IBIS] The roll of IBIS, Model Maker, EDA Tool, and Model > User > > > > Continue ... please give examples besides filter tap coefficients. > > I maintain that the spec (and models) should be designed to allow as much > as possible to be automated without resorting to reading the model users > manual. > > > > > > > Scott McMorrow > Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC > 121 North River Drive > Narragansett, RI 02882 > (401) 284-1827 Business > (401) 284-1840 Fax > > http://www.teraspeed.com > > TeraspeedR is the registered service mark of > Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC > > > On 4/9/2011 2:01 PM, Walter Katz wrote: > > Scott, > > > > Because if a User wants an EDA Tool to use an AMI Out parameter in a way > that the User wants to there should be no rule that prevents an EDA Tool > from doing it. > > > > Walter > > > > From: Scott McMorrow [mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 1:47 PM > To: Walter Katz > Cc: IBIS > Subject: Re: [IBIS] The roll of IBIS, Model Maker, EDA Tool, and Model > User > > > > Ergo quid? > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Walter Katz <wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > All, > > > > When a User wants an EDA Tool to do an analysis using any models the User > does the following: > > > > 1. The User reads the Models Owner's Manual > > 2. The User understands the channel that this model is going to work > in > > 3. The User decides how to set up simulations based on the channels > operating conditions and the Models Owner's Manual. > > 4. The Model Owner's Manual needs to explain to the User what the > models can do, what its inputs are and what its outputs are. The model has > to explain to the User how to set the inputs to the model, and the model > has to explain to the User how to use the outputs of the model. > > 5. The User decides how he wants the outputs of the model to be > used. > > > > In order for the User to be able to do this: > > 1. IBIS is responsible for setting a standard for Model Makers to > define the capabilities, inputs and outputs of their models. > > 2. The Model Maker is responsible defining the capabilities, inputs > and outputs of his model, and to do that according to the standard set by > IBIS. The Model Owner's Manual needs to explain to the User what the > models can do, what assumptions it is making about its operating > environment, what its inputs are and what its outputs are. The Model > Owner's Manual has to explain to the User how to set the inputs to the > model. > > 3. The EDA Tool is responsible for enabling the User to implement > how the User wants to do an analysis and how the user wants to use the > outputs of an analysis,. > > > > This applies to AMI Models, IBIS Models, ISS Models, Verilog Models, VHDL > Models. > > > > I do not know how it can be any other way. > > > > Walter > > > > Walter Katz > > wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx > > Phone 303.449-2308 > > Mobile 720.333-1107 > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by <http://www.mailscanner.info/> MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > > > -- > > > > > Scott McMorrow > Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC > 121 North River Drive > Narragansett, RI 02882 > (401) 284-1827 Business > (401) 284-1840 Fax > > > http://www.teraspeed.com <http://www.teraspeed.com/> > > TeraspeedR is the registered service mark of > Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC > > >