[ibis-macro] Re: I would like to un-table BIRD 154, and request that there be a vote on BIRD 154 at the next Open Forum meeting.
- From: "Bob Ross" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 10:07:17 -0700
All:
I have concerns about BIRD154 as written. While we can vote on it,
I do not recall it being fully discussed at the ATM meeting. BIRD154
is not ready for approval for a number of reasons.
1. Labels, as documented, is not a Leaf, but a co-dependent Format
word with List. This is totally inconsistent with the usage of Labels
for Table.
If it were a Leaf, then the format would be
(List (Labels "a" "b" "c") 1 2 3),
not
(List 1 2 3) (Labels "a" "b" "c")
So the format needs to be changed or the word Labels needs
to be changed to something like (List_Labels)
2. The added rules about the content of Labels are inconsistent
with the rules for Labels under Table (a point of confusion):
Labels, as documented, places extra burden on the parser
to (a) check for unique List entries and unique Labels for all
Types (Float, String, Boolean), (b) if List entries are the same
then the Labels must be the same. I can think of exceptions (b).
Furthermore not allowing a Null Label "" is inconsistent with the
the rule in Table. Also, the handling of Default is not mentioned
(illegal for Table, but legal for List)
3. The bottom line is that while Labels in Lists might be handy in
a few tools, Labels in Lists is an optional, but not necessary
feature that will cause extra documentation and parser
work for little general benefit. Since Labels are optional, all
tools must still be able to work without Labels. Also the BIRD154
needs more work before its approved.
Bob
From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Katz
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:42 PM
To: Michael Mirmak
Cc: IBIS-ATM
Subject: [ibis-macro] I would like to un-table BIRD 154, and request that
there be a vote on BIRD 154 at the next Open Forum meeting.
MM,
I would like to un-table BIRD 154, and request that there be a vote on BIRD
154 at the next Open Forum meeting. I would very much like this in IBIS 6.0.
It allows the Leaf (Labels in (List parameters, thus assigning intelligent
text to coded values in list parameters. It is simple used for "Tool Tips"
or equivalent information to the user about the various value of List
parameters. It is optional and has no effect on flows. It in fact worked
with the IBIS 5.0 parser. The IBIS 5.1 parser complains about this. So the
only effect on IBIS 6.0 would be to relax the rule that is currently being
enforced.
Walter
Walter Katz
wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx
Phone 303.449-2308
Mobile 303.335-6156
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