[ibis-macro] Re: Comments on BIRD 123.2.2 from Mentor

  • From: "Walter Katz" <wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx>, "'IBIS-ATM'" <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:45:04 -0400 (EDT)

Arpad, Vladimir,

 

There was great effort to define each of the parameters in strict
mathematical terms. Please indicate specific parameters that the BIRD does
not either define mathematically precisely, or indicate how the parameters
are to be used in either the statistical or time domain simulations. 

 

Walter

 

From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:43 PM
To: IBIS-ATM
Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Comments on BIRD 123.2.2 from Mentor

 

Walter,

 

Here is the email (with attachment) I mentioned in the

ATM meeting today.  There was no response to it since

I posted it.  I think it would be good to get some

discussion going on these questions/comments.

 

Thanks,

 

Arpad

 

 

From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 11:53 AM
To: IBIS-ATM
Subject: [ibis-macro] Comments on BIRD 123.2.2 from Mentor

 

Walter and All,

 

I am forwarding Vladimir's comments on BIRD 123.2.2 to this

list for discussion.  Please look at his comments which are

in the attached Word document.  Since Vladimir is also on

this email list, please direct your answers, questions and

comments to him.  (I don't want to be the middle man in such

conversations.).

 

The general problem is ambiguity of given definitions when it comes to
implementation in EDA tool.

The Bird does not seem to be logically complete (does not cover all cases,
such as Time domain and Statistical flow), or does not provide all
necessary parameters affecting the results (such as either giving
frequency content of Tx Gaussian jitter, or making it defined as white
uncorrelated jitter, etc.) 

 

Thanks,

 

Arpad

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