Greg, If statistical, then there is no way the DLL can handle jitter, and it must be handled by the EDA tool with the "Statistical" BIRD 123 parameters. If time domain, there are two issues. First, the DLL cannot handle the jitter on the reference clock. Second, any Rx Gaussian Jitter (therefore have tails), has limited statistical affect because of the limited length of time domain simulations (~1e6 bits), so having the EDA tool incorporate that jitter is more accurate. Walter From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gregory R Edlund Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:27 PM To: 'IBIS-ATM' Subject: [ibis-macro] BIRD 123.2 Intended Usage I'm addressing this question to the authors of BIRD 123.2, Walter, Mike, and Todd. As I understand this BIRD, the model developer has two choices for how to model jitter: 1) inside the DLL or 2) outside the DLL using the BIRD 123.2 parameters. What factors might influence a model developer to choose option 1 over 2? Can someone give me an example? Greg Edlund Senior Engineer Signal Integrity and System Timing IBM Systems & Technology Group 3605 Hwy. 52 N Bldg 050-3 Rochester, MN 55901