[ian-reeds-games] Re: skill mod function
- From: "Allan Thompson" <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx>
- To: <ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 17:58:25 -0400
Yes, I guess that makes sense.
So that is what the message is kind of doing, that you are talking about?
So are the arguments in those scripts variables too? I noticed that in craig’s
docs, the {0} and {1} was used inside the quotes that seem to represent either
the unit a skill is being used on and the unit actually doing the skill. So
are those variables to?
Just wondering.
al
From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of abigail prescott
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 5:25 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: skill mod function
Yes, things with quotes around them are strings, and these are usually words,
though sometimes you might have a number or even some code as a string. There
are some cool functions that can turn strings into whole numbers, decimals, or
even a line of code that can be executed. That’s what I did with the message in
the skill mod, which is also why it’s more complicated.
A good example of the differences between string and int variables is if you
have two variables called string1 and string2, with the values “1” and “2”.
Then you had two variables called int1 and int2, with the values 1 and 2. With
the first two variables, if you added them together, you would get “12”, or
“21” if you changed them round. With the second pair, you would get 3.
Abi
From: Allan Thompson <mailto:allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:00 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: skill mod function
Huh?
Does this have anything to do with string cheese? I love stringcheese…
Actually, You mean quotes have to be around the variables that are words,
right? Numbers don’t?
Or, I guess if a number is something you want on the screen then I guess that
would need quotes. But don’t quote me on that, grin.
al
From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of abigail prescott
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 3:29 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: skill mod function
Thank you. Now I have a clearer idea of things. So if I tell you that an
parameter is a string variable or an int, you’ll know what I mean, so I don’t
need to explain about quotes every time.
Abi
From: Allan Thompson <mailto:allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:55 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: skill mod function
You mean like string cheese? I love that stuff! Then there is silly string that
comes in a can…I don’t think that would work in a programming setting.
I do remember some things.
I remember variables. They could hold words or numbers. String and int has
something to do with that I think, although until you said it I had forgotten
all about it.
I remember having to number each line of code.
I remember if, then kind of stuff in basic.
These things like arguments and events and all that, are totally beyond
anything I ever learned. I am in my early forties so what I knew back then
might not really be applicable now.
Honestly, I remember the most playing with that graphic interface where you
just plug graphic edit boxes and buttons and stuff onto a blank window or
template. There was some kind of code to go with it, but I can’t remember
right now what it was. Modules maybe?
Sorry, that is about all I can think of.
Like I said, I failed these classes. I finally had to give up, and switch
directions.
al
From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of abigail prescott
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 2:11 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: skill mod function
So the words string and int mean nothing to you? At least not in a programming
context, if you didn’t know what a string was out of context, I’d be quite
worried.
Abi
From: Allan Thompson <mailto:allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:55 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: skill mod function
Ok, so I am sarcasm deficient, grin. Or is that sarcasm disabled? Sarcastically
challenged, grin…
Actually, I did take a number of programming classes in the past. That was
years ago.
I did in fact flunk them. I remember some kind of window with all sorts of
controls you can put into the window and make it say “Hi” and the like, but
that was more like point and click then programming anything. I did have a
little BASIC in High School on apple 2e computers with greenscale monitors.
That was a trip.
Ironically, I ended up becoming much more fascinated in building computers and
fixing their issues then actually telling them what to do. You would think that
I would have realized that was something I liked to do, but programming was
such a big deal with lots of potential…
So in short, you might as well consider me nearly clueless. Consider me totally
off the street wondering what all this stuff is, cause that is exactly how I
feel.
al
From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of abigail prescott
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:22 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: skill mod function
But it’s you who didn’t notice the sarcasm, not me.
I have read it, which is why I decided to try writing some examples. The
problem is that I also like learning by looking at code and experimenting, but
because I’m limited to writing emails and not being there in person, I can’t
exactly go through it with you learning what things you do understand and what
you don’t. Examples should work if I put some comments in to explain what
things do, but it would be so much easier if I could actually see what you were
doing. Just out of interest, do you know anything about programming at all?
That’ll give me a better idea of what needs explaining and what doesn’t.
Abi
From: Allan Thompson <mailto:allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:12 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: skill mod function
Hi Abi,
Lol, the birthday, it was just an expression. Then again maybe sarcasm doesn’t
come across on email that well, grin.
I suggest that maybe you should take a look at Craig’s documentation. He does a
great job explaining and giving lots of examples. It is in the documentation
folder in the data for TB folder.
Personally, I have a hard time sitting and being taught thru books or being
told what to do.
I am very much a hands on, see how it is done and then do it based on that. It
is why school was always so hard for me. If I can’t immediatly use it for
practical purposes, I end up just losing it.
But if I can mess with examples that work, I have a chance at eventually
understanding and using it myself.
Everyone is different, but that is kind of how I do things.
I just keep practicing something till I got it, but it takes time for me to get
it. Sometimes I run out of patience cause I just don’t understand it, and it
gets dropped till I can focus on it again. Sometimes that helps too.
al
From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of abigail prescott
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:27 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: skill mod function
Well possibly, I don’t know when your birthday is. I’m not sure how well that
last script will work because there is a lot of different things to keep track
of and it still isn’t completely customiseable, but I’m mostly worried about
people understanding what to do with it (especially the message thing). Do you
think it makes sense? Or should I try to explain things differently?
Abi
From: Allan Thompson <mailto:allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:34 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: skill mod function
Is it my birthday already? Christmas? Cause there is all these gifts….grin.
Thanks for your hard work!
al
From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of abigail prescott
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:16 AM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] skill mod function
Hi, I’ve been working on a script that will let you change the damage inflicted
by an skill depending on unit stats. I haven’t tested all of it, and I might
have forgotten to include some features that would improve how it works, but it
seems like it works...
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/94819755/skill%20mod.zip
Here’s a folder with the script to put into the scripts folder, an attack skill
file from my map that will hopefully help demonstrate how to use the event and
a file to help explain a slightly more complicated parameter you can set.
The script file is called skill mod, the skill file is called attack, and the
other one is the help file.
I’ll add some more examples if people want them, I just haven’t written them
yet and I wanted to send this out.
This function should allow you to take different amounts of damage depending on
either the stats of the unit using the skill, the unit the skill is being used
on, or both. You can use the stats in formulae to calculate how much damage
should be taken.
Parameters:
s_mod: the stat of the unit using the skill (known as the source_unit) that
modifies the damage
t_mod: the stat of the unit the skill is being used on (known as the
target_unit) that modifies the damage taken
affected: the stat that is affected, so health if the skill is an attack
multiplyer: this is a number that the modifier is multiplied by. If you want
the modifier to be divided instead, use 1/number you want to divide by.
add: this is a string (meaning it is in quotes), but it should either be a
number, a range (like 0r5 for a number from 0 to 5) or a dice roll (like 2d6
for a roll of two six-sided dice), the script turns it into a number
compare: a formula in quotes that you might want to use if you are using s_mod
and t_mod. E.g: “t_mod-s_mod” if you want to subtract the source_unit’s stat
from the target_unit’s stat.
message: this is explained in the help file as it is a bit more complex
Basically, after the game gets all these values, it works out the value of mod
(if only s_mod is used and not t_mod then mod is s_mod and vice versa, if both
s_mod and t_mod are used, then mod is the result of the formula in compare).
Then it multiplies mod by the multiplyer (if you use a decimal or fraction so
it’ll divide, remember the number will be rounded) and adds add. This number is
called damage. Damage is then taken from the point you specified for the
affected argument.
This doesn’t only have to be used for offensive skills, I intend to write some
examples of how to use it for other kinds of skills.
Sorry if this isn’t very well explained, but I never was the best at explaining
things like this, and doing it by email is harder. It’s also too hot today, I
think I’m going to take a break and have some icecream! I have the feeling I’m
leaving something out, but I can’t remember it so hopefully it isn’t important.
Abi
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