[ian-reeds-games] Re: operation black web demo
- From: "Allan Thompson" <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx>
- To: <ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:02:29 -0400
Hi Austen,
I figured it would be tough.
One option might be to have a change unit involved.
So for instance, if you have a fighter pilot, they could come to the
vehicle. They use a change unit , while removing the unit. The vehicle
becomes a piloted vehicle, and then you load your troops on it. The problem
is if you load them on it before the pilot, they might not survive the
transformation so that might not be the best solution.
I was in the air force and I drove some pretty big vehicles, invludeing a
cherry picker and a tow truck that towed aircraft that was about the size of
a 707. All of them were automatic transmission, so the truck would be no
problem for anyone.
Also below is a web page that features a description of someone learning and
driving a tank, all within a day, so I don't think driving a tank is all
that hard. I think driving a tank "well: might be the issue but the simple
act seems like it can be taught and trained in under a week at the most.
Boats too aren't hard to learn to drive, featureing just a wheel and a
throttle. It is just learning how to drive one expertly which requires such
training.
The aircraft are very different, although I understand the trouble it is to
try to simulate something more realistic with them.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/weapons/how-to-drive-a-t
ank-15236321
al
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Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: operation black web demo
hi again,
hmmmm, i have thought of this already, and you do have a point.
what i've come up with, but haven't started is making a separate skill for
piloting a craft, such as pilot.
or drive tank for tanks, etc.
then, on the skill flags, have a not usable flag for the normal board skill,
so that board only works on cargo copters trucks and black hawks.
the reason black hawks can hold several units is because it's the special
ops craft, and in later maps it will be used to get across enemy lines and
drop units, so there is a problem with having a pilot and passengers on the
black hawk, as if 3 board and one pilot, there is no distinktion of pilot an
boarders, therfore anyone would have to be able to pilot the black hawk.
i'll have to give this idea some time to sift through my head, to realy
start to begin to figure it out, but it is on my agenda.
i'm thinking the truck might be the only vehicle that wouldn't require a
pilot though, as its not something you train for years to learn how to
drive.
On 10/4/13, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Austen,
> I was thinking, maybe you want to make a fighter pilot and chopper
> pilot unit. Realistically, I can't imagine just anyone jumping into a
> flying machine and using it.
> Also, it would be nice to have units that deal with just the planes
> and choppers, and then keep the other more wet work personnel in line
> with their jobs.
>
> I realize that this might be hard to do though.
>
> What I find myself doing is putting the least important units on the
> vehicles, cause they always die on me.
>
> al
>
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> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] operation black web demo
>
> hi all,
> i've posted a link to this already in a different subject message
> line, but i've updated it and wanted to open a line of discussion
> pertaining to ideas i have about this map slash map pack.
> operation black web, is a map pack about a secret government agency
> funded by the golden alliance, an alliance made by the u.s, england
> italy and a few smaller minor countries, to promote the inactivity of
> major threats.
> black web deals in cia type missions, and the main objective at the
> moment is to wype out a knew terrorist group going by the name of the
> red riders, promoting comunism and building neucliar weapons that when
> completed can wipe out the major countries of the world, without
> leaving a trace, as well as verry verry little radiation, something
> the golden alliance still cant figure out how.
> the red riders plan to strike in simoltanious locations to prevent
> throwing the earth out of alignment, and if this action is completed
> they will become the governing body of the world, no stronger
> government would be present after such an event.
> in the black web operation, there are normal military type men moving
> up the ranks, high level security clearanced men who do most of the
> secret ops, and intellegence ajents who work directly with the cia,
> mia, and black ops organizations not funded by the golden alliance.
> in black web maps, you'll pilot vehicles, have to take off and land
> rather then use vehicles like before, all vehicles now need a unit to
> pilot them, a more realistic combat system is invovled where the
> skills to shoot ma be present, but without the correct weapon wielded
> the skills will not all work, so if your wielding an ar, and trying to
> shoot full auto withb 7.76 amo it will not work, vice versa with heavy
> mg's and normal asalts and bursts.
> at the moment, this is in demo stage, and i look forward to all help
> comments suggestions and what not.
> since the last e-mail, i've fixed the pilot bug in the ai units,
> creating a land and take off point that disallows an ai to multiply
> take off, as well as added sounds, updated some items, tested
> winability again, added in a attack helecopter to the test map, and a few
other minor things.
> also note that items play a huge roll in this series, so use the
> review keys on everything to see what it's description is.
> the link to black web operations is still the same, but for
> convieniance it is below,
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18725707/operation%20black%20web.z
> ip
>
>
> for my thoughts on a few thing.
> i was wondering if it'd be possible in the future to make a flag on a
> skill to let a non flying unit on to an impassable tile.
> where the unit is on dirt, and wants to climb a tree, and has a climb
> skill.
> the problem is without flying the unit and moving him on the tree you
> cant get him their, i thought it would be cool if i made a grappling
> hook item that moved a unit from a normal to an impassable square one tile
away.
> also i am still verry interested in the cloaking unit, and if anyone
> figures that out let me know.
> the insanity effect is still in a weird buggy stage, so for now just
> ignore it. hopefully i can figure out whats messing it up.
> also wonder if a splash replace terrain flag could be implemented, for
> my suicide bomb that could replace all normal city tiles with dirt or
> a burnt tile.
> also was thinking a steal skill flag, like take item but it would give
> a list of a different unit's items to choose from and would attempt to
> take the item from the unit. could have a chance flag.
> another one is a passive chance damage, or protect.
> so a small unit would be harder to hit with certain attacks, it could
> have a skill that made all asalting skills have a lower chance of
> succeeding.
> same with larger units.
> i also wonder if it would be possible to make a second player team,
> for stratagy purposes, like playing chess with yourself.
> you could play maps as the good and bad guys, could be interesting.
> i still am verry interested in the sub map idea i mentioned last
> december as well, where on a map of 3 by 3, at 2 2 it would have a
> flag that gave units there a skill called enter town, when using the
> skill with a self flag it would transport the unit to a different map,
> which could be 3 by 3.
> at 1 1 thered be a flag that gives the unit the exit skill that
> transports it back to the 2 2 tile in the first map, and at 3 3 on the
> sub map would be a second similar flag, that instead of transporting
> the unit to 2 2 on the original map could transport it to 3 3 on the
> original map, so thate a tunnel could be effectively mad or a second
> level of a building.
> the other thing you could do with that, is have a connection system.
> so the sub map would still exist, but at the edges instead of being
> the edge of the map could be a drop off in to the surrounding tiles on
> the original map, a little bit harder but would be cool for shooting
> from 1 map to the other, but be protected by the sub map.
> you could toggle through the sub maps with the tab key, and when
> running through units only the units and structures visible on the map
> selected would go through the list.
> another idea, is to have instead of an x y system of maps, an x y z
system.
> so where you would have a map 4 by 4, you could make an exit going
> down on one of the tiles, to a knew tile, so if on 1 1 and making an
> exit down, the tile down would be a1 1, where as a is the sub level, 1
> 1 is the tile.
> could be nice for building maps, again just an idea.
> i also wonder if there would be a way eighter through the use of
> scripter scripts or what not, to make a enemy have a spacific target to
aim at.
> where the flag ai_wait makes it stay still unless a unit is near, the
> ai would focus on a particular unit, trying to move closer but still
> attacking the players other units on the way, so instead of moving to
> the closest units moving linarly to the target.
> would be nice for the rescue mission if the enemy focused on the
> person being rescued, better mainly for larger maps.
>
> thats all i've got, hope you enjoy what i've done so far.
> feedback is greatly appriciated and i'll continue to develop this one.
>
> austen
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