[ian-reeds-games] Re: concerning Allans user guides
- From: "Allan Thompson" <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx>
- To: <ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 10:05:58 -0400
Hmmm, I can see an angle that used voyager that was upgraded now that you
mentioned it.
I think that a pivotal point in voyager and for the whole alpha quadrant,
was the destruction of the transwarp hub, and the borg that followed the
voyager thru that transwarp conduit in the last episode.
I always wondered what would happen if it did not die, but survived, and
escaped.
What would a borg cube do all alone in the alpha quadrant where there is
amassive manhunt to find and destroy it?
My theory would be that it might hide out, start slowly to assimulate ships
and loner space stations or even a colony, and start to rebuild a
transwarp hub to open up communication with the delta quadrant borgs.
In addition, if you were borg, and you found out that some piddly fed ship
called voyager could blow up borg cubes with a single shot, I would
certainly send out various attempts to steal the ship, take it's technology
or even destroy it before the tech could be implemented thruout the entire
quadrant.
This would allow a lot of things. The inclusion of other races into fights
with the borg various ships that the borg build, the end game where a crew
would have to get onto the last borg cube for some reason. Like that
central plexing thing you mentioned.
al
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poetic license? how about this. voyager is included in the game as this
would be an upgraded voyager's last mission through an artificial wormhole
into the delta quadrant.
On 10/17/2014 3:54 AM, Allan Thompson wrote:
> Actually that is pretty cool. I would take some poetic license with it
> , for instance I am not a fan of species 90210 (little joke there).
> But the basic plot would work pretty well.
> It is certainly doable I think.
> Thanks for that,
> al
>
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> how about a different kind of borg invasion. the story is this, short...
> It is 100 years later. the federation has a colony on a small planet
> at the edge of the alpha quadrant bordering the delta quadrant. They
> also have a space station which keeps open an artificial wormhole into
> fluidic space because they have recently made full allies and species
> 8-4-7-2 is about to enter the federation and has agreed to lend help
> if the station or colony is threatened. The colony has been at peace
> for two years now, but recently one of their scout ships on a mission
> to bring back more deuterium for the station has gone missing. A
> shuttle was sent to investigate and found some borg debris along with
> the wreckage of the shuttle. Now that the borg knows the federation
> has allied itself with species 8-4-7-2, they are coming to conquer the
> colony, its protective station and then the alpha quadrant! First you
> have to fight several borg spheres in heavily armed defiant-class
> shuttles. Once those are defeated, you have to bord the cube with a
> mixture of armed star fleet security and help from species 8-4-7-2
> fight your way past the borg and retrieve an important piece of
> federation technology. Some of your crew may be assimilated along the
> way, eventually you'd have to avoid them also. not sure if this would be
too complex for tacticle battles currently though.
> disable the central plexus hope I got that right that thing at the
> center of the cube that connects it to all the rest of the collective,
> retrieve the technology.
> Once you get in your shuttle and escape breaching the cube and
> destroying it with a final phaser fire that map ends. how about a borg
> invasion map pack like that?
>
>
> On 10/16/2014 10:02 PM, Allan Thompson wrote:
>> Yes and no.
>> The thing is, the borg's greatest strength in storytelling is that
>> they assimulate people. Assimulating a ship can only go so far. But
>> assimulating a crew goes a long way towards the flow of the story
>> and the need to really feel a personal investment in kicking borg butt.
>>
>> Just take for example star trek first contact. The space battle was
>> fun, but it was the freaky way Picard and other crewmembers had to
>> walk among the borg drones that really gets the heart pumping. I saw
>> that when I was still sighted and man, that was a memorable moment to
me.
>>
>> I tried using persons and time travel in an earlier version of
>> starship battles, but they got cut because no one seemed to like them.
>> The problem is, I would want to use them in a borg invasion to get
>> that first contact feel, you know?
>>
>> So that is why it kind of didn't raise up on my list of map pack
> creations.
>> I know, more information then you really needed, lol.
>>
>> al
>>
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>> Kennedy
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>> a borg invasion would be so cool!
>>
>> On 10/16/2014 7:41 PM, Allan Thompson wrote:
>>> Hi Niklas,
>>> The asteroid is mainly there as a marker for navigation. I figured
>>> that it could be something that a person could recognize as the
>>> middle of
>> the map.
>>> It doesn't really do anything else.
>>>
>>> The aura sing are a made up race that has a special weapon. It is an
>>> energy ball that does damage to units , even if it just passes them
>>> by within one square of it. It then can explode on the target as
>>> well. I was originally going to include them in a second starship
>>> battles map dealing with a borg invasion, but then all sorts of
>>> things cropped up, I got started with starcraft and never got around
>>> to
> it.
>>> I hope that helped you out.
>>>
>>> al
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>>> [mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niklas
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>>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:18 PM
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>>> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: concerning Allans user guides
>>>
>>> Hi Al,
>>>
>>> thank you for the explanation. BTW: the weapon wich works like a
>>> time bomb i meant was the energy sphear or so, i don't know how to
>>> write it. And another thing wich isn't clear to me is the asteroid.
>>> It's called a unit but how does it work and what can be done with it?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> best regards
>>> Niklas
>>>
>>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>>>> Von: "Allan Thompson" <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> Wichtigkeit
>>> Normal
>>>> Gesendet am: 16.10.2014 21:07:07
>>>> An: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>>>> CC:
>>>> Betreff: [ian-reeds-games] Re: concerning Allans user guides
>>>>
>>>> Hi Niklas,
>>>> I figured it out, and yeah, it is something I should have explained
>>>> in a guide, because it can be confuseing.
>>>>
>>>> You see, on the ships there is a list of skills.
>>>> But because the computer could not use items, I turned the items
>>>> list into a second group of skills that are actually considered
>>>> items. The point was to allow players to use these higher
>>>> functions, but deny them to
>>> the computer.
>>>> The problem is that these are not meant to be items. They are meant
>>>> to be actual commands that you can use to help your ship. Some
>>>> items are used for how well you regenerate warp energy, and how
>>>> much your people will do damage control each round. I think those
>>>> kind of things are in the starship battles primary map pack.
>>>>
>>>> So what you did was use the transporter to transport out the self
>>>> destruct command, which actually doesn't do anything on a map, but
>>>> just causes your own ship to self destruct.
>>>>
>>>> The three different transporter modes are:
>>>>
>>>> Transporter: This is used to transport items from ship to ship.
>>>> These items are meant to be away teams, or special items designated
>>>> in the map's description as something to be acquired or transported.
>>>>
>>>> The beam in actually "picks up items" from the map. So that is what
>>>> it is, it beams items off the map into the ship.
>>>> Beam out is the opposite, it beams items out of the ship and onto
>>>> the
>> map.
>>>> I know that can be kind of confuseing and I am sorry I did not
>>>> explain that very well in a guide. I promise I will try to get one
>>>> put out. I will be gone for a week but hopefully I will be able to
>>>> make a good one
>>> after that.
>>>> I hope that helps you out, and I am glad you mentioned it, cause it
>>>> never occurred to me that that could happen. So good job!
>>>>
>>>> al
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> [mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niklas
>>>> Rittinghaus
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:04 PM
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>>>> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: concerning Allans user guides
>>>>
>>>> Hi Al,
>>>>
>>>> from what i remember, the Item was there even if the ship wasn't
>>>> destroyed, just moved away from the tile with the item. The item
>>>> sounded like the communicator in star trek, i think.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Niklas
>>>>
>>>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>>>>> Von: "Allan Thompson" <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> Wichtigkeit
>>>> Normal
>>>>> Gesendet am: 16.10.2014 18:47:17
>>>>> An: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>>>>> CC:
>>>>> Betreff: [ian-reeds-games] Re: concerning Allans user guides
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Niklas,
>>>>> When it comes to age of warlords, anything is possible.
>>>>> Generally speaking, it is finished, except for the polishing up of
>>>>> details, which I didn't realize how much I needed to get done.
>>>>> I am also open to suggestions and ideas from players, if they
>>>>> think there is a way to make a map better, or if they want a
>>>>> different kind of battle scenario. I tried to create those dual of
>>>>> destiny maps so that people could set up their ownbattles cause
>>>>> it is hard to cover
>>>> everything.
>>>>> I think you are talking about transporter bombs. The orion
>>>>> syndicate uses transporter bombs like torpedos. If an actual item
>>>>> was outside of the ship, then I am not sure how that happened.
>>>>> Did the item get left over when a ship was destroyed?
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds like you had a heck of a fight! Better luck next time.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a side note, I always wanted to combine the two map packs cause
>>>>> starship template was just something I used to help me test and
>>>>> create maps and duels etc, and I thought others might be
>>>>> interested in
>>> it.
>>>>> But I guess it gets played.
>>>>>
>>>>> al
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niklas
>>>>> Rittinghaus
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:44 PM
>>>>> To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: concerning Allans user guides
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Allan,
>>>>>
>>>>> yes, to be more detailed would be very good. But keep it up, your
>>>>> work is very fantastic man. It's great to see you are working on
>>>>> the user guides already, so the map packs will get it in an update.
>>>>> Great, thank you for all this especially for doing it without
>>>>> costs, i have to say, if it would cost money, i would pay it for
>>>>> all the hard work you put into it. Just out of curiousity, do you
>>>>> plan to add more maps and content to age of warlords or is it
>>>>> finnished as it is now? It's very
>>>> gigantic already.
>>>>> Ah, and another thing, in the user guides, please explain how
>>>>> items in your maps work if they work in another way as the
>>>>> general. I had in starship templates a ship standing on a tile
>>>>> with an item but i don't know how to use or what to do with it. If
>>>>> i moved the ship away from the tile, the item was still there. But
>>>>> i don't know what it
>>> was.
>>>>> Oh well, the AI was very angry about me. I placed a weapon onto a
>>>>> tile with an enemy ship, i don't know the exact name of the
>>>>> weapon, but I think it worked like a time bomb or such. However,
>>>>> at the enemies turn the ship with my surprise on it explodes. I
>>>>> was soooooo sad about it, i had cryed if I hadn't laughed. Hmmm,
>>>>> pitti for the enemy. But his refenge was bloddy brutal. In his
>>>>> next turn, he shot down 5 of my shuttles and a cruiser. I had a
>>>>> fleed of 9 ships, 3 cruisers and
>>>>> 6 shuttles. in the next turn the nightmare goes on, because this
>>>>> freec destroyed another cruiser and my last shuttle. However, he
>>>>> won at the end, but I fought like an heroe till dead, yeah.
>>>>>
>>>>> best regards
>>>>> Niklas
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>>>>>> Von: "Allan Thompson" <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> Wichtigkeit
>>>>> Normal
>>>>>> Gesendet am: 16.10.2014 15:58:37
>>>>>> An: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>>>>>> CC:
>>>>>> Betreff: [ian-reeds-games] Re: concerning Allans user guides
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Niklas,
>>>>>> Ok, thanks for letting me know about that need.
>>>>>> I actually got a good chunk of the age of warlords user guide done.
>>>>>> It made me realize that I need to go thru all the skills and make
>>>>>> sure they are described better, sigh. I really should be more
>>>>>> detailed with everything, but there is always something going on,
lol.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> al
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niklas
>>>>>> Rittinghaus
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:12 AM
>>>>>> To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] concerning Allans user guides
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Allan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a thing wich should be included in the little user guide for
>>>>>> starship battles template is how the missile pods work and how
>>>>>> they can be used from the player for example. It was a thing i
>>>>>> don't understand and does need clarification in the user guide
>>>>>> since it hasn't been explained in the other starship map packs
>>>>>> user guide as
>>>> well.
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>> Niklas
>>>>>>
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