[ian-reeds-games] Re: Tactical Battle 1.12 dev 9
- From: "Allan Thompson" <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx>
- To: <ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 02:10:28 -0500
Ok, I can't make promises but I will try to get the first starship whittled
down to size and left as a complete series. I don't think it is worthy of being
in any release however.
The borg were always beaten and always with picard leading the way, inventing
new and interesting ways to beat them. Only in one movie did he actually fight
them and destroy them, in final conflict.
As for something like your talking about, that is going to be very difficult.
The game isn't really geared for anything more then very interesting tactical
scenarios, and technically, the campaigns we all create are not really
conforming to the purpose of the game as a whole.
I also really don't have the time to keep all the fiction up to date in the
maps. There is just not enough time and energy to do all that. That was one of
the reasons I was making the new map, to be a kind of template for anyone,
including yourself, to easily plug in your own stuff when the time comes when
you feel a creative urge to put your vision into practice. It is my hope that
it will be very easy for people to play with the map, if it is easy enough,
ahnd make their own stuff.
So, I think what I will do is make four maps. That player build one. The other
three introducing a cast of characters in a alternate version of the first
starship maps, as a homage to the new star trek movies. After that I can't
promise anything. I have to rewrite the zombie stuff cause it is all old and I
need to get the stuff working properly and I also got some fantasy stuff I want
to complete. I know that ain't your thing, but I do enjoy that stuff and it is
fun since it has a whole diffrent way of interacting with surroundings.
I guess that isn't what you want to hear, but I really can't promise much more
than that right now.
Ian is using this game as a spring board to the ultimate goal of an rpg maker,
where the tactical battles game will in essence be the combat portion of the
rpg. To think, a fully customizable rpg that can feature anything in it,
utilizing all these great tools to express creativity in an amazing interactive
format! It's fantastic.
al
"The truth will set you free"
Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D.
----- Original Message -----
From: shaun everiss
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 12:44 AM
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Tactical Battle 1.12 dev 9
well thats a major point, you could keep the same arc, and then make
it bigger and bigger.
however it doesn't have to end, you can switch around with different
smaller arcs, if you can finnish the maps in the current arc and
release those like some of the maps in the current arc with the old
code are not fully completed.
once thats done you can continue the arc but have smaller arcs, and
all that goes to the main arc.
My view is that you can keep the arc as it is for the main arc and
finnish it off and release it.
However you could just release the arc as it is with all maps
finnished though because its prity much done and start a new one.
or you could have the current arc as a alternit end.
now no one said you had to have the borg win on resistance in fact on
startrek cannon the borg never win, they almost win but never do.
so you could always break the arc or start the new one assuming
resistance was won.
On the subject of saving the universe, thats really good but I liked
the way the arc was before, with the origonal maps, that had hunt for
gorn triumverate, fog of war then resistance.
The other stuff was just filler.
Now once done I't still would like to get more ships but you are
right, even seasons of trek with kliffhangers only had 1-3 maps and
never arced over that.
there was a central arc, well the first enterprise had it, tos had
it, and ds9 tng and voyager.
Some of those were really loose but even so you don't need to stick
with the major arc.
but definately drama suspence and other junk as well as standard
stuff of a more entertaining nature just like the old shows would be good.
ofcause you will have to have stuff where not much of note happens
but thats how the shows went.
it doesn't all have to be fighting or fighting for any real purpose.
it could be um well for example the spilling of a cup of tea.
where and when on what or who could make the difference from a stupid
event and a battle of sorts.
trek was not all battling and exploration.
in one case in voyager I remember an ep where a diplamat got drunk
for some reason or another and needed the borg to fix him for one
reason or another.
and having to find how for the fact to avoid an embarasment or something.
Well you could have something like that, have an stupid event but
have it where you get yourself into an even bigger and bigger mess,
maybe a full on war.
and you find your item or whatever resolution to the even could be made
simply.
I am not sure but yeah having a break from battling all the time is
one thing, no one said you need to stay on a single arc all the time.
At 05:56 PM 2/10/2013, you wrote:
>Hi Shawn,
>Ok, those sound portable. I like the borg so I am going to port that
>too, and I think it will be easier to balance the borg, hopefully.
>
>I am not sure what you had in mind for storyline. One of the things
>that frustrated me was that I had to work within the paradigm of
>this fed captain rising int he ranks with ever bigger and better
>starships. I was hoping for something a little more episodic, each
>map tells a little story without having to make it some broad
>sweeping save the universe campaign. It doesn't evenhave to be the
>same cast of characters, just maps that tell a little story of
>themselves, maybe have a storyark season finale of two or three maps, lol.
>I should get some companies to advirtise between map choices, grin.
>Then the map choices would look like this...
>
>Birds of a feather
>To kill a titan
>Try new Schlotz beer!
>resistance
>fog of war
>Schlotz beer tastes good! Now new klingon Targ flavor!
>
>al
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>
>"The truth will set you free"
>Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:sm.everiss@xxxxxxxxx>shaun everiss
>To: <mailto:ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:00 PM
>Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Tactical Battle 1.12 dev 9
>
>maps I like
>04 - Friends in Deed.txt
>05 - Cutting the Cord.txt
>07 - Birds of a feather.txt
>08 - Seperation Anxiety.txt
>09 - triumvirate.txt
>12 - To kill a titan.txt
>16 - Fog of War.txt
>
>these are all the maps I have managed to complete I'd still like the
>borg, and some of the maps from that maybe but then what I put are
>the maps I have managed to complete.
>whatever you choose is your choice.
>Are we going to have another story arc or are we just having a fiddle
>round I'd like a story to.
>
>
>At 11:27 AM 2/10/2013, you wrote:
> >Hi Shawn,
> >Lol, you want to chuck all the ones I like, grin.
> >How about I keep the ones in the story in the old map pack, and port
> >over the ones you like into the new one? They just won't have any
> >story or anything like that.
> >
> >Your scenarios are probably doable once I get the moduler
> >design worked out. I am still experimenting and trying things.
> >Every time I try it I find out something new. The computer
> >controlled dudes actually use items, so I must have been mistaken
> >about that, so Ian , if your reading, Sorry buddy, my bad, as they
> >say. Your three steps ahead of me.
> >
> >so, Shawn, when you get the chance, write down a concise list of
> >maps you want to keep from the old and they will get ported.
> >
> >I am thinking of the ultimate map.
> >It will go way beyond the arena. I think it might be possible to
> >make a map, that a player can create, complete with units from both
> >sides, and I think terrain even. It might have to be a map pack in
> >itself, lol. I think it is doable though and it should be something
> >a player can actually customize themselves. They can build it, then
> >save it like a map pack with the save feature, so it would be like
> >their own maps made by them for their own use. Yes, I think I will
> >make that seperate cause that will be a huge undertaking but I
> >think it will be the crowning achievement on the starship universe!
> >That and a nickel will get me a cup of coffee at the local woolworths, lol.
> >
> >al
>
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