[ian-reeds-games] Re: Repost: some issues
- From: Monkey <murtagh69.monkeys@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 14:58:01 -0600
At impassable terrain. Yeah, kay. I was just wanting to clear that
up,. I actually thought it was pretty much the same as the old limit
flag, just making everything on that list impassable so they could
move on everything else.
Not on an enemy player, just a player from an allied team.
I'm not sure how it happened. I mean, my unit was in the area of the
map where the skill was targeted, and the splash range should've had
me in it, unless I misheard the coordinates of where the skill was
being used...
I'm more bothered about the healing skill not working on allies
though. Considering that enemies includes every enemy team, I thought
friends would make each of the particular teams targetable with
healing skills and the like...eh, maybe just the way I see things.
I don't know how to replicate it. I've just noticed that when some
units -- generally enemy ones but sometimes mine if I give them to the
AI to control -- use the move skill it gives that message. I don't
know where it's happening, I just know the error message that I get
from the battle log.
And for the reversion. I just thought to point that out. It doesn't
seem like a big deal, but I will get the "cannot find the original
type of unit so it can't be reverted" message after the effect
normally expires (or similar message, I can't remember the exact
wording).
Oh, and...remember that old bug we had with the AI targeting units
that should've been removed from the map? I'm getting that again. It's
an instant-death skill, and when the AI uses it it kills the unit,
then uses the skill again and again until it runs out of AP. It says
it's using the skill, but I'm not getting a unit defeat message/sound
like before, so it seems like it's targeting the same spot as the
first time.
On 3/24/15, Craig Brett <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> No, it's not a bug. Impassable terrain works essentially like a terrain
> limit, meaning even if you can normally traverse a tile, this unit
> cannot. It does not automatically make every other tile type passable.
> It just adds additional terrains that this unit cannot use. Otherwise
> you'd have to include walls and other obstacles whenever you included
> impassable terrain, which felt like a pain to me. I could be wrong.
>
> If you're trying to use a friendly skill on an enemy player, it will not
> let you do that, hence why you're getting that message. If you're saying
> your unit is using that skill on a player on a team that is set as your
> enemy, that's the behaviour that I'd expect.
>
> I'm not sure that friendly fire takes into account allies or enemies,
> only teammates. From the documentation:
>
> "enable_friendly_fire, a boolean (true/false) flag that controls whether
> units can take splash damage from teammates on this map."
>
> Team mates here refers to units on the same team. Allies not included.
> So you should always be getting splash damage from units outside your
> team. I'm more concerned when you said you weren't getting it when you
> removed them from your friends. How did that happen?
>
> Getting friendly fire to include allies could be something we could do
> if people want it.
>
> How do I reproduce that issue with the AI moving?
>
> As for the reverting of transformations on effects, that could be a bug
> with the transformation script. I'm not sure.
>
> On 24/03/2015 19:39, Carlos Macintosh wrote:
>> yeah that's intended. Just put it in the passable_terrain flag and it
>> will be able to go through it, I believe,..
>>
>> On 3/24/2015 2:13 PM, Monkey wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Not sure if this is a bug, but in the impassable_terrain= flag, if I
>>> don't put down a certain terrain because I want that particular unit
>>> to be able to go through it and it is normally impassable, the unit
>>> still can't pass through. Is this a bug, or is it intentional?
>>>
>>>
>>> And another possible bug, this one with teams...
>>> I have a unit that's on team 8, and one on team 1. Teams 8 and 1 are
>>> allies, and both are enemies with team 7, who I'm battling against.
>>> So, my unit on team 8 is trying to heal either the unit on team 1, or
>>> the unit on team 7. It says "You do not want to help your enemies."
>>> The skill is set to friendly.
>>> Is this because it's trying to heal the enemy, or its ally that isn't
>>> on the same team? Personally I think it's trying to heal its ally on
>>> team 1 but it can't, and here's why.
>>> When the friends= flag has team 1 specified in the team 8 file, for
>>> some reason my team 1 units get splash damage from team 8's attacks,
>>> even though I have friendly fire disabled. When I remove team 1 from
>>> the friends= flag, I don't get the splash damage for some reason.
>>> Is there anything that can be done about this?
>>>
>>> Also, I've noticed several times that when the AI is performing the
>>> move skill that I end up geting the message "You can only perform move
>>> 1 spaces away. There is a bug in the artificial intelligence. It was
>>> trying to perform move." My skill looks like this:
>>> Skill
>>> 10
>>> |flags
>>> description Moves this unit to a new location.
>>> tile
>>> move_self
>>> ai_move
>>> range=1
>>> AP's_cost=1
>>> move_AP's_cost=1
>>> move_keys
>>> sound=move
>>> |script_flags
>>>
>>> And finally, with the remove_effects flag in skills combined with
>>> transformations that are effects.
>>> When I use a revert skill to undo the transformation, I have it set as
>>> remove_effects=, so that I remove the effect directly. It's weird
>>> though, because I use the skill, the transformation is undone, but the
>>> effect is still on the unit in question and I have to use the "revert"
>>> skill again to get rid of it.
>>>
>>> Any ideas on what my problems are here?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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