[ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

From: "Allan Thompson" <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx>
To: <ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:28:46 -0500

Introducing the three characters before before antara is a good idea!

I appreciate the work you took in the maps following the orc confrontation. I
think those will be a real excellent addition.

So which skills need to be used against the quest shield, which would be
ineffectual?

Like the music too.  Maybe I can change the pitch of the individual voices
for the bandit.

al

From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 9:32 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

Sorry here's the link for Al

https://www.dropbox.com/s/19ycu6ut8j2u454/den%20of%20the%20slave%20lords%206.
0%20modded%20beta%20V3.2.zip?dl=0

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.0%20modded%20beta%20V3.2.zip?dl=0> den of the slave lords 6.0 modded beta
V3.2.zip

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<UISSFleet@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:25 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

Hi

I did some more updating

I added some more maps to act one

Some are not complete yet

Three new maps at the beginning with zombies standing in for the enemy
character in till I can get them completed

I did find someplace for the double attack

I did modify the hook horror

Bandits in the last three maps are not yet complete I'm still editing the
files you sent me in changing the pitch of their voices to sound more Orcish

The sound file for the struggling sound I cannot seem to mix two sounds
together without closing the program prematurely but accident

I tried to edit the quest shield where the enemy would still attack but it
seems I am unsuccessful

If you can fix it that would be helpful because I am not sure where I went
wrong

It will be a while before I can do anymore updating I am in the process of
moving

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Well, it is more of a game balance thing then an actual statistic the hook
horror has.

If you can just charm it, or turn into a dragon, then it is about as
threatening as a one legged drunk  penguin wearing a blindfold, lol.

So sometimes things get changed, or sacrificed to fit the battle you want,
you know what I mean?

I like how the skills are coming along. You've done a good job with those.

As for the dragon and such, it is your add on. If that's the way it needs to
be to set up the next act, then so be it.



I probably need to spoil some things here,  to help us be on the same page.

The second act starts with news of an assassination attempt on the minataur
king. The plot was allegedly foiled, but as a result of the attempt, Ghent
has closed it's borders to Amalane, where the characters all are.

The reason for the ban is that the minataur believes Amalane had something to
do with the plot. Thus all travel is restricted into Ghent by normal means.

My characters discuss what to do, showing three routes.

First, They could try running the border thru the wilderness. If they
encounter Ghent soldiers or guards, they might have to kill them. Edric and
Dougal believe this is not a viable solution since the two countries are now
a hair's breath from a war.

The second option is to sail by boat to Pomjhari. This is an Arabic/Egyptian
culture. The country is below Ghent and has desert between itself and most of
ghent, minus one large river, but to the south it has lush jungle and fertile
lands that grow tobacco and coffee etc.

So the thought was to sail to Pomjhari, then enter Ghent from the south,
either by Pomjhari boat, or thru the desert  trade routes.

The biggest problem with this as tat Edric is obviously Amalane, and the
pomjhari kingdom takes a dim view of all non humans. Thy would easily stand
out.

I can see Your characters taking this route, because I can easily  imagine
they have some talent mixing into different cultures from different planets.
This would not be hard to do for Ron and Riku. Ivy can alter her appearance
thru magic  , and if the Jinx sister can turn into a kitten, she will be easy
to bring as well,  since cats are considered  lucky in Pomjhari culture. One
of their 1001 gods is  cat like being in fact .

My guys are going thru the mountains between Amalane and the lands on the
other side to a free unaligned city    named Mundabar, a place well known for
it's gambling dens. It is loosely based on Las Vegas, if Las Vegas was in a
Medieval  fantasy world.

My characters are taking the Iron Road, which goes thru the Iron Tops, and
right thru the mountain and The Steel throne of the dwarves.

From Mundabar, they plan on going down south to ghent, since all sorts of
merchants from all over would help them mix in easily.

Hope that helps a bit with future  maps .

al

From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:24 PM
To: <ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

I almost forgot about the hook horror I did not know that that was an option
to begin with

I don't think it would be normal for them to charm it

Considering I ask for your help on the hook horror in the first place

Should that be a immunity for it

Are there other immunities then I should be aware of

There is something else I missed from your email I apologize . Ron

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Ron <UISSFleet@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

For the campsite the details are supposed to pertain to the next act as you
put it

With the Dragon and kitten part of the storyline i'm trying to set something
up in the intro of the first map to pertain to explain it more in detail

But for a spoiler just like jinx also have the ability to turn into like a
house cat

The cat girl in this last map is actually one of jinxes Younger sisters

As for Ron turning into a dragon requires the use of his sword

But never like calling on one of the higher quest levels available to him

Each quest level of work grants higher levels of stats and quest power damage
affects

Level for grants dragon  form

Higher levels do not give that

Another spoiler alert quest level 12 grants quest armor

But like I said Ron does not like using higher levels and less dire need it
but in the last map Ron was not in a good mood  when he woke up

As for the double attack point that shouldn't even be there anyway A
character I was trying to put in before called Paine

I will make sure that it is not there next time unless I find a use for it
later

As for the two women fighting leading up to giving them baths was leading up
to a discussion about scars and bruises and such for later for the tiro

For some of this I was trying to put into the intro for the first map

As for Ivy not tearing into Ron at when she woke up pertains to the map my
friends working on as well as for something for later that my friend came up
with

Sorry if this makes it more confusing but like I said earlier I am still
working on it . Ron

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:52 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Ron,

I played the last two maps featureing Riku and the zombies and the hook
horror.

You might want to add the double attack point. The map pack was throwing
errors up for that. It is an easy fix, so no worries.

I fought them zombies. The writing intros seem to be better and the fight I
was getting into.

I got caught out in the open a few times and they tore me apart. Then I saw
an empty open cell. From there  Riku was able to beat all the zombies,
although sometimes it got a little  haiy.

The Hook Horro intro was much better.

The Hook Horror howeer has a weakness, and that is that I was able to use a
charm power on it.      The second it switched sides, the fight was over.
Isuggest the hook horror be immune to all those charm powers in the future.

I want to play thru the other maps again, but I was perplexed by the victory
text at the end of the hook horror map.

It is your guys thing, so if that has to remain, so be it, but it was .well,
it creeped me out.

I understand Ron is an honorable paladin type, but  everything got weird when
the  girls knocked each other out. Stripping them naked and sponge bathing
them while unconscious    is just too much. I am pretty sure most women would
feel extremely violated if that ever happened, friends or no friends.

In fact, the whole campsite scene really doesn't need the point by point
break down like that. A sentence or two would suffice. I liked the scene were
Riku is a it grumpy till she gets fed, which is a neat character development
thing. The drow tough might need a little  more fleshing out, meaning, she
survived some kind of terrible experience, I assume, she was to be punished
for failure. Then this Ron guy saves her and know she  finds herelf on the
surface, trying to figure out the angles. Can she betray these people and get
back in good graces?  Or is she unable to return to the guild, and is now
forced to live in a world of light with two veritable strangers who do things
and possess powers she had never encountered before. Ivy has become very
interesting.

What really confuses me is the whole kitten/dragon thing.

Actually I had dragon armor in mind for a character to use in the final
battle, which was going to allow a dragon to be summoned  , bt maybe Ron can
pick up an artifact that allows him to transform, sometime before the big
fight.

Yet, Ronturning into a dragon right then and there just seems.well, a bit
overkill. I mean, if he could always dragon form, then where is the suspense
of the previous maps? Then the whole     jinx 2.0 thing was weird. The loss
and desire  for Jinx to be found is gone when one just strolls in and eats
some fish.

Also, the orcs are a rea good opportunity! You can split that into two maps.

The first can be a white knuckkle  fight with the big orc leader.have Ron
knocked out, then the second map features Riku and Ivy defending Ron till he
wakes up 20 or 30 rounds later. It forces the girls to work together, and
allows theplayer to get a feel for a new strategy.

Maybe I sound too critical, but actually, I am enjoying what your making, and
I think it will be   a really great cross over kind of thing. So I am sorry
if I sound hyper critical.

I did notice the minataur mention. I cant wait to see that one!



al

From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:22 PM
To: <ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

Sorry no

I downloaded quest for power when I was at the library

Only way I could get quest for power was the copy the link into the address
bar change the 0 to 1 and I must've forgotten to switch the links before I
wrote the email I apologize

I will try to put the correct link in my next email . Ron

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 17, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Sorry to hear about the computer. That sucks when it happens. Glad you didn't
lose anything though, so it isn't a total loss.

I have about 5 maps done for act2 of Den.  I am having some difficulties with
some things, so it is slow going.

The link you have here is for quest for power. Was that what you intended?

al

From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 1:06 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

Sorry I do not like library computers

here is the link

https://www.dropbox.com/s/z3ulhi2edcqmhya/quest%20for%20power%201.0.zip?dl=

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Shared with Dropbox

. Ron

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From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Ron
<UISSFleet@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:59 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

Hi I was able to do some more editing and a updating

I finally was able to put in something like an out troll for the last map
that I put together I did come up with an idea for the intro for the first
map and I haven't put in the idea for the intro for the first map yet I will
try to do that in the next update

I am still working on what to put in for a team for the second to last map
yet my friend is still working on the one map pack that he keeps stating he
will do it himself

I put together what I have done up to this point

Maybe sometime before I can do anymore work at this time I'm setting up this
download link from the use of the public libraries computer

If you're wondering why my computer died completely

But I did have all of my stuff saved to a portable hard drive so it's not
like I lost anything

Also my friend and I were using the same computer

So this is what we have put together up to this point at this time

On Dec 14, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

No worries.I have been  sick and not doing a lot on den. With the holidays it
is even less ti,me, so really, no big deal.

al

From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 9:56 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

Hi sorry I hadn't responded right away

I was working on getting my computer back up and running to where at least
last sometime longer than it has been

If only I could get a computer that I know would work properly

But then they are only available now as custom builds or only on eBay

But that's beside the point

Yes I have tried using the salmon and mirror image

But now I have it where it seems to turn out at random if one of my
characters die or not

As for Rikku I will see what I can do it what would seem correct for what she
would find as well as do

I am still trying to rebalancing as much as I can

My friend is still tweaking the map he's working on so it's not even done yet
anyway . Ron

On Nov 26, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I am surprised Ron gets killed. The drow had the spell book and with the
summon and mirror image spells, it seemed pretty easu to keep it cornered.
Unless the apprentice was not supposed to have that book, which, yeah, that
would be a really hard fight.

Ah, I didn't know that about Riku.

Maybe instead of  two final fantasy characters, maybe Riku could hear moans
coming from one of the caravan wagons.  Seeing inside it she notices an
enslaved monster. Maybe a minataur or a creature.

Th creature was dangerous and drugged for ease of transport, and it was
forgotten after the dramatic events.

Maybe could rescue this  being or creature and in freeing it gainsa friend to
help against the zombies and te hook horror.

Another option might be to have her find a statue of wondrous power. These
statues  are about palm sized, and  when placed on the ground become a
friendly creature to help fight.

       Anyway, just some suggestions.

al

From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 12:15 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

I will try to answer questions as best I can before I become too busy at my
sisters

The hook horror probably could be stronger but the two times I test played it
Ron died both times

Either way I still have work to do

As for Yuna Paine and Rikku they are from the same world I am not the
original creator of the characters all three characters come from two games
called final fantasy 10 final fantasy 10 two

All three characters are in my personal map pack I am working on separate
from this one

Ron is base on me

Jinx both me and my friend came up with her

As for the Droad apprentice is the same one that the main characters in the
main story kill after she teleports in behind them

The map my friend is working on explains it more in detail A brief
description of it will be told in the intro of the last map

Now for the question about the two extra characters in the second to last
math

They're not even supposed to be there

But they are the only two characters that would fit that would come to Rikkus
side in this situation in the map

They leave because they know she's OK at that point and they know that
they've already over stayed there welcome . Ron

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 23, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Sure, no problem. The work  really shows the effort put into it.

I checked out the further maps.The hook Horror was fun, but I think he can
get even tougher! Especially with the spell caster there.

I like the voices for Ron and Riku.

I was wondering what the deal with the two otherfemales. I mean, the one had
a gun  which was weird to me. Arethese other characters you made? Why do they
suddenly show up and leave in mid air? They don't seem to  flow at all with
the rest of the story.

al

From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 11:39 AM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

Sorry it seems my email on the website is still having problems

I lowered the characters defense in order to try to balance it out some more

There is still a lot of work to do . Ron

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 23, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Ron <UISSFleet@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I edited the defenxe of the uint's

Ifix the one map Rikku should be there now

here is the link

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ygoxv4xpa0wfgg4/den%20of%20the%20slave%20lords%206.
0%20modded%20beta%20V2.1.zip?dl=0

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.0%20modded%20beta%20V2.1.zip?dl=0> den of the slave lords 6.0 modded beta
V2.1.zip

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<ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Ron
<UISSFleet@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 2:34 AM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

I will see what I can do about the intro map inner duction

I'll see what I can do about the characters defense I actually wasn't real
sure as to why it seemed too easy

I will see what I Rikku it's not going into the map

As for the magical iron slate door I had tried to set it up to work with
either a major key or picklock it five times

Any suggestions you have I will see what see if they work . Ron

On Nov 22, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I got thru to Brutal freedom map.

First off, I am really pleased with how it is looking.

I found myself invested in the characters, but I found myself wanting to
write the intros, or at least give some samples that might help.

Especially the first map. There wasntenough for me to really get a grasp of
the characters. I mean, it is called Ron's story after all.

It wouldn't have to be the whole story of Ron, but You had the right idea,
with a flash back to a conversation giving a reason to be there.

Also I am really happy how you narrowed the powers down to a decent level
.except for one or two, but that isn't a big deal. Really did a greatjob
overall!

The one thing that did confuse me is that the monsters seemed to be very
slow, they don't attack all that often, and I s suspect it could be due to
how computer units work in TB. The damage for the units are all rolled ahead,
so to speak, and if the AI unit sees it cant do damage, it just won't bother.

The only thing that can change that would be to try lessening the armor
values of your characters just a little, enough to ive the computer a reason
ffor living, LOL.

So currently the fights are easy because of that. I never once thought the
characters were in any danger.

The map pack also had an issue with not placing Riku. I think you may need to
put her back in to the cell for two an brutal freedom map, because otherwise
you get an error and she doesn't show up.

Alsoin the Brutal freedom map, there neds to be a mage key to open the iron
bound door. Maybe on the crystal ball table? It was fun bullrushing all their
furniture, lol.

So that is where I got to, and I think it is a great job!

al

From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:28 AM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

Sorry my email went crezy

hrtr is the link

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0%20modded%20beta%20V2.zip?dl=0

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V2.zip

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0%20modded%20beta%20V2.zip?dl=0

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V2.zip

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Shared with Dropbox

.ron

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From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Ron
<UISSFleet@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:17 AM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

Hi sorry I just read this email it works thank you

Also my friend wanted you to check out the progress we have so far on the the
Side story

It is still a work in progress

Have not yet updated the user guide add on yet

There are changes to the characters

There are some additions put into it  not just in the characters

There are some maps one is blank on purpose that's the one my friend is
working on

The title and the music is there otherwise he still working on it

The last map I have not yet put the intro or victory text in yet

You will notice which maps are still under construction I have their titles
and labeled as such

The second to last map May seem out of place with one of the additions put
into it

At least play the map or check out the victory and in true text to understand
why it's that way

Otherwise this is the progress we have we won't be working on much of it
during the rest the week because it's Thanksgiving

I did notice your other email stating that you are cracking down on finishing
yours

I will understand if you want to wait until you're finished to check it

This link should be correct I try to make sure ahead of time

http
a://www.drpbox.com/s/pts6kn5g5az84rp/den%20of%20the%20slave%20lords%206.0%20m
odded%20beta%20v2.zip?dl=0

On Nov 17, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Oops sorry. That's my fault.

I will send you some sounds for the pain sound, or if  you don't want it in,
you can erase the script in the units that are

After_damage_sound health:hook pain

Get rid of the script and that is resolved. Got to look for the sound files
in case you want them. Sorry about that.

al

From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:59 PM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP

That is definitely more than I knew of a hook horror

Which brings me to what I should've mentioned in the last email

I don't have a sound file called hook pain

Because when I test Play the map it says it can't find that sound file

Any suggestions . Ron

On Nov 17, 2016, at 11:56 AM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

The hook horror done sound is for the last hook horror unit death. The hook
horror death sound actually has the transformation sound. There is no death
transformation sound script flag to add flavor to the transformation so that
was my work around.

The last hook horror has the death_sound script flag Monkey made so I am
thinking the last death will have the transform play then the death sound.
The transform sound can be avoided by just using a different sound= flag or
that unit, so that when it dies, you just hear the death sound.

The hook horror is a cross between  a monster terry brooks created and the
dungeons and dragons version.

In the book, the monster grew stronger  when damaged, it's rage giving it
more and more power. It can be killed, but it took a while. A weapon master
named Garret Jax wanted to fight it, because he had no equals to his fighting
ability. He wanted a real challenge and the monster was what he wanted to
fight. It was called a Jachyra.

I think of it as a hook horror because I seem to recall a picture of the
monster in the third shannara book. It looked pretty close to it's picture in
a monster manual.

Below is the description from the monster manual of a hook horror.

The hook horror is a bipedal, underground-dwelling monster that looks like a
cross between a vulture and a man with hooks instead of hands.

     The hook horror stands about nine feet tall and weighs almost 350
pounds. It has a tough, mottled grey exoskeleton, like that of an insect. Its
front limbs end in 12-inch-long hooks. Its legs end in feet that have three
small hooks, like long, sharp toes. Its head is shaped like that of a
vulture, including the hooked beak. Its eyes are multifaceted. It is thought
that the hook horror is distantly related to the cockroach or cave cricket.

     Hook horrors do not have a smell to humans and demihumans, but an animal
would detect a dry musty odor. They communicate in a series of clicks and
clacks made by the exoskeleton at their throats. In a cave, this eerie sound
can echo a long way. They can use this to estimate cavern sizes and
distances, much like the sonic radar of a bat.

Combat: Hook horrors have acute hearing and are surprised only on a roll of
1. They always know their territory, and they try to ambush unsuspecting
travelers or denizens. Each round they swing with both hooks. If in any round
both hit, during that round their beaks hit automatically. They automatically
inflict 2d6 points of damage each round with the beak until at least one of
the hooks is dislodged.

     The eyesight of the hook horrors is very poor. They are blinded in
normal light. They use their extremely acute hearing to track and locate
prey. Since their eyesight is so poor anyway, they suffer no combat or
movement penalties if blinded or in complete darkness. They attack silenced
opponents with the penalties others suffer when attacking blind.

     Hook horrors are natural climbers, as their hooks give them excellent
purchase on rock surfaces. They can move at normal speed up vertical surfaces
that are not sheer. Their great weight means that they cannot hang from the
ceiling like other insects.

al

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I am wondering if the hook horror done sound file is the hook horror pain
sound file or is that done sound file for something else . Ron

On Nov 16, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Ok, a rough example in a drop box link below.

Essentially the easiest way was to use the death transformation script which
Craig Brett created . You need his name in the map pack settings file. Mine
should already  feature that.

When you check it out, after you put the skill, units and sounds in, that the
Hook Horror will start normal, and somewhat weak. After the first 25 damage
it mutates to the next size which will be seen on the screen, and the
transform sound plays.

This works  well, because you can make skills o match the power level. You
can increase attacks, health etc. You can even increase damage of the attack
in the unit itself so you don't have to make more skills for that.

I tested this out and it works. It is free for for you to change in what ever
manner you choose to make it challenging for Riku and Ron, meaning quest
powers or however that all works.

You can even make more units if you want the progression to be slower, etc.
The friendly_type worked for me, but you can transform into whatever unit
placed in the script flag.

I was actually kind of happy how well it turned out. Check it out.

Let me know if you have questions or if this doesn't work for your purposes.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68028683/hook%20horror%20example.zip

al

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Hi my friend and I are wondering if you could send us a hook horror

Every time

Either I'm doing something wrong in order to put it together or I'm missing
something

I am trying to set it up to increase at the attack when it takes damage

Help would be appreciated because I think this would work in the side story
quite well

And less you have another suggestion thank you . Ron

On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Ron,

Sorry, I saw your message yesterday, but I had some things to deal with.

I am glad your friend agreed! I am looking forward to checking it out.

al

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I managed to get my friend to work with me

We've also added more stuff and another map level

So it might be a few more days before you can give an opinion on it . Ron

On Nov 11, 2016, at 10:15 PM, Ron <UISSFleet@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi I thought I'd mention how it went with my friend

He said that he would wait to see how the side story goes before giving his
opinion

On the other hand he is not real happy that I read did the characters

In other words I replace them with the ones from my map pack by making them
easier for me to work them in to the side story

I'm working on finishing the side story and then I was going to have you
check it out see how I did . Ron

On Nov 3, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Your  way ahead of me then.

No, he needs to do it and get the map pack under his belt, With your help of
course.

al

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That could work

But I already have that in my map pack I am already working on

Except jinx does not have one

Ron's mirror counterpart called imperium have meet and have fought to near
death where Ron was able to send him back home but not before leaving a scar
across imperium's right eye where than imperium uses it as a constant
reminder to get revenge imperium happens to also be emperor Tiberius his
right hand man

Alex is mirror counterpart also called Alex I don't think he will make a
comeback Alex strap a anti-matter land mine to mirror Alex is back set the
timer on it and send mirror Alex home screaming nooooo when the transporter
cycle completed Alex said boom

Jinxs mom mirror counterpart died at the age of 15 attempting to choke the
life out of emperor Tiberius where is she almost succeeded at the time she
declared she would be Empress of the Terran empire but she was vaporized by a
young man Who emperor Tiberius made into his right hand man hint hint

I am actually putting some of what you have suggested into my friends idea

Unless you'd like to do it and send me what you come up with

I am open to anything you come up with optional . Ron

On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

No problem. I am glad you liked the side story. I think it could be fun. Oh,
I wasn't saying change your personal  works, but like you said, your
characters can be a little different when in anothers work/world. In fact, it
would make sense in a way they were different if this was an alternat
paralell universe. Kind of like a star trek episode where the good captain
kirk and crew encounter their evil versions in another dimension. That might
make an excellent map pack idea for you guys. Evil ron and evil alex, and in
the other dimension, the mother made jinx to kill/fight them to defend
humanity against their evil plans, instead of her prime version in which she
is kind of deranged and homicidal.

Or another universe where Jinx meets evil Jinx. It might be interesting.

Anyway, yeah You got the gist.

al

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Usually it would help to Play Final Fantasy 7 to understand the movie what's
done some still watch the movie and not play the game

But then they made continuations of the Final Fantasy game on the PlayStation
as well as other game systems they also made at least one that I know of
before final fantasy seven started call before crisis can't remember what
system it's on though

As for the characters in the idea I am open to ideas I was just letting you
know about the actual character itself in case you wanted to try and put
something together from both backgrounds if you want to try and make a
different one I'm open to the possibility

But I'm definitely not changing them in my map pack

But for this map pack idea I'm open to possibilities to help my friend

From what you were coming up with I was going to put it into the map pack and
surprise him

I'm really liking that idea were a pen allows the actual storyline where they
have a separate quest alongside the main quest of the story

I personally like stories that parallel each other especially when both
Cueist seems so close together and yet they still seem to never meet

It always leaves me the impression while reading a book or listening to an
audiobook with a similar story

Where it seems that the two groups may yet meat or may not meet

Storylines like that always make me want to actually keep reading the book to
find out if they eventually do or not

But like I said I am open to possibilities . Ron

On Nov 2, 2016, at 11:00 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I am glad I found it then!

Hmmm, I will have to look up that other Final Fantasy movie. I hadnt even
heard of it. Do you need to rplay 7 to understand the movie? I havent played
that one for a   long time.

In the end, your characters are what they are. I was just trying to open up
the possibilities a bit, you know, break a few paradigms?

To be honest, characters you and Alex have ar tough, because they are heavily
influenced by your own desire to make them so much better then super.

This is kind of why superman is really hard to deal with. He flies backwards
in time, reverses planets rotation, lifts continents off the earth's surface
and flings them into outerspace. Once they are this potant, it becomes all
the harder to make them interesting and identifiable.

So what happens? Everyone and their mother throws kryptonite at him. The need
to make him vulnerable makes him a caricature rather then a character. Hope
that made sense.

al

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Yes that is the sound I've been looking for for sometime  now

Yes I do remember seeing the movie I think they didn't quite put everything
together correctly but it still turned out good

But then there were two final fantasy movies that I do recall

Final fantasy spirits within which I know connection to the games

There was final fantasy seven advent children which follow right after final
fantasy sevens storyline

As for this possible storyline most of it would work

The only contradictions  are my reference to the quest power and the force
are similar in some ways  and I probably should've explain that more in the
first place

quest power  can only be used through a quest weapon

The quest wielder can't actually sense or feel The quest power pre say only
when they're about to get hit by another quest ability there are no quest
abilities the consents others

But there are means of blocking the quest weapons connection to the quest
power

That would cause the quest weapon to go dormant

Where then the quest weapon can only be used as a regular weapon

Rikku does not have a quest weapon or access to one

In any case Ron would know enough to  inform the local law or in this case
city watch  of what happened

Ron is also good at not giving too much away about himself or who's with him
just enough to get the information crossed but not too much

As for Ron visiting this world  he always goes down to the planet to see
things for himself in person  to get first and experience about the level of
government cultures how they interact and level of technology  and every time
he goes down to a planet  something always happens to drag him in  more

But then he can find out about the evil workings of that world as well
especially when he does not plan it that way  as for quest demons are
actually created through the quest power how do not know

And for the magical cell that they teleport in  Ron would be very difficult
for them to torture his normal response to questions are Oh really

And if The female apprentice or to attempt feminine charm on Ron he would
then smile with genuine interest but then say too bad we are on opposite
sides  I might consider it where usually Ron gets smacked across the face as
a response to his comment but always seems to leave a look on their face as
if they had considered it for a split second and then change their minds

I don't know if this would be considered in your storyline but I thought I'd
give a reference to it in case it came up as a possibility later on

The part about melting two together that would work where the attempt to
merge two creatures together that would work a lot for in my opinion

These are just references from my map pack

Otherwise I think it would work

I won't be able to ask my friends opinion until Monday on till he returns
from his girlfriends

Otherwise I don't have a problem with the way it's going . Ron

On Nov 2, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Ron,

Here is the link to the sound I found. It should be the town portal from
diablo one.

It is as clean as I could get it, so I hope it is useful.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68028683/diablo%20town%20portal.mp3

Wow, 15! That is a lot of sequels   for a series  of fantasy games that are
called Final, lol.

I remember the movie too, That was a fun movie, although a bit strange.

Ok, here is what I am thinking for your friends alternat map pack.

Ron, Jinx and Rikku end up on Antara , which is the game world. They detected
a strange disturbance featureing the mysterious quest power. The disturbance
was just enough to get their attention, so they decide to check it out.

At the Inn, they have that encounter with an ogre demon.

After the encounter, Jinx sees a black cat huddled in a corner of their room.
She takes pity on it, thinking it was scared. She picks it up, but it
teleports her away with itself.

The player knows it was Tabitha but Ron, Jinx and Rikku did not.

Fearful of what might happen to Jinx, they attempt to use the mysterious
quest power  to   try and detect Jinx's location. They find the power to be
strangely diffused, like light is diffused  thru murky water or a dirty pane
of glass.

The attempt fails, forcing them to figure out another means of looking for
their friend.

They  don't go far, since they have to report the attack and dead bodies and
Jinx being whisked away by a cat via magic,   to the local city watch. The
constable  finds their report is truthful and that they were forced thru self
defense. Just after making the report, Guards come up to the constable,
stating that Gerend has been arrested for his connection with some new slaver
guild. One of gerend's many accomplices had been caught using some strange
coins in an attempt to bribe a guard.

The thug had given up gerend to avoid the gallows, and also the name of a
wizard named Fazoon.

The constable is not surprised by Gerend being dirty and explains to Ron and
Rikku that people had been  abducted over the past few months. Mostly they
were low life nobodies, but their friend Jinx could be one of those abducted.
Ron asks if he and his friend could help capture the wizard, in hopes of
finding their friend. After all, the black cat seemed to be a familiar or at
least possessed magic of their own.

The constable tells them that, most likely, the paladins will be leading the
arrest of the wizard, but that he knew one of the paladin's men, a man named
Malcolm Crombie . A good NCO and second assistant to Vinton Marlow who  is in
charge of the paladins contingent of men.

That night Malcolm has Ron and Rikku join a  group of guards to watch the
back of the house. To their shock, the group sees the house erupt in flames.

A massive fire elemental bursts out of the house and ron with Rikku and some
city guards must fight and defeat it.

After the fight, the house is blackened shards and smoke.

   The city guard, rikku and ron were left  to search for bodies and clues.

No bodies found, Ron and Rikku left alone among the ruins as the guards give
up and leave.

One of the two friends suddenly discover a secret concealed door by accident,
and they decide to plunge ahead alone, for Jinx's sake.

They go below and discover a labrynth of traps. After they pass thru the
labyrinth, then enter into the laboratory.

They find the lab is partly packed, as if someone packed in a hurry and only
took what they felt most important.

They find formulas and spell scrolls and discover that the wizard fazoon was
actually the cause of the quest power disturbance.

They surmise thru the notes that Fazoon was attempting to meld two beings
into a single entity that could bear the mysterious quest  power.

One of the notes showed what seemed like a cat and human hybrid, as well as
ogre and demon, and one particular nasty one. A snake with a woman.

Each note features a number of jotted notes that reveal that Fazoon was
testing by trial   and error. A large number of his test subjects have Dead
written by them, some have failed by their category name. Only a quarter of
the test subjects were successes.

Rikku discovers that a page is missing detailing how the Jinx test subject
will be the breakthrough Fazoon needs. The page is half ripped, with the
sentence written split in half. The sentence written is " I will take the cat
woman to.

The other half of the page is stuck underneath a door. She picks the lock
and opens the door to get the paper fragment, but with in the room are the
failed abominations. Horrible mutated creatures that seem to have a strange
siphoning effect on quest power.

After the fight, they find the other half of the page mentions the teleport
circle Fazoon was forced to use.

The friends discover it, and decide to use it.

They land in a jail cell made of a sickly green metal. The metal immediately
glows and begins to drain  the two friends empty of their mysterious quest
power.

The weapons and powers are useless, They see that their captor is a drow
wizardess who is accompanied with a variety of creatures.

Two gnolls, an assassin bearing an elf skathe, a second drow female, an
apprentice perhaps. There is also a Halfling, half orc barbarian and a human
cleric.

The wizardess explains that if they attempt to flee, or resist them in any
way, all she needs to do is use a crystal ball located on a table near by and
tell her master. Jinx would then be skinned alive as punishment.

The drow asks them questions.mostly about Jinx, what was used to make her,
how it was done. Rikku states that the drow doesn't know who  she and her
master fazoon is messing with.

The drow wizardess simply says that Fazoon is not her master. Tiaxx is the
master, and Tiaxx will rule all.

She tells her apprentice to do what she has to to get the information out of
them, and she teleports away.

A week or more goes by. Ron and Rikku are weak, having only been given water
and bread. They have been tortured for the information. They know if they
tell, they will die and so will Jinx.

Then one day, faint sounds of battle could be heard. The drow apprentice
consults the crystal ball. She is told by Viconia that prisoners had escaped
and her and her friends were needed. Bring everyone she tells her. The
escaped prisoners are quite resourceful.

The apprentice gathers her friends and as many kobolds as possible.

More later

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Last I checked final fantasy 15 came out recently at least not too long ago

Final Fantasy 12 was the last One I played before I went blind

I remember playing gauntlet and if I recall there was a sequel and I played
it to something about sorrows in the title

As for Gundams  it's OK they're pretty much the same thing just with a
different name  but I do remember in some of the episodes they did refer to
some of the regular mobile suits as Mech warriors Who would be custom mobile
suits that would dominate the space battle at least until some Gundams showed
up

As for the characters in the story line I do understand that that is
difficult   Any help with the idea would be helpful . Ron

On Nov 1, 2016, at 9:01 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Wow, their up to FF10? Geez.

I actually really   enjoyed a PS title called Suikoden. That was such a great
game. The second one of the PS2 was also really good.

I would love to make a map pack similar to that, ut I don't think I could do
it on TB.

I never got to play diablo, but a person I knew let me watch him play it. I
reminded me of Gauntlet. Although much better of course.

I am still looking, although I found some interesting sounds for who I think
are diablo characters. They are not from diablo itself I don't think. Since
going blind my son is the only one who keeps up with that kind of thing now,
lol.

Ah, ok, Gundam. Sorry, I don't know why I went to mech warrior on that one.

Hmmm, Here is the thing. The characters don't fit and just couldn't be in the
original. I am willing to include a little description in a map describing
the characters in passing. Maybe as captured slaves, or as people entering a
portal, but actual interaction of anything more as they are is just really
untenable. If I did include the characters, they would b so changed in
everyway, it would not be what they were, nor what I was already planning.

The paralell idea is fine If he wants to make an alternate timeline were his
characters and mine interact and the like, that's perfectly fine with me. But
it would be a seperte work that was, I guess the term is fan fiction?

Iam at a  crossroads. I worked this hard to get the map pack to this point,
but I feel for your friend who just wants to share his creative outlet, which
I understand completely.

Al

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