Hi Ron,
Ok I will check it out.
Happy Thanksgiving. My week is pretty busy as well. That is to say, stuffing
myself with turkey is a busy task, grin.
Monkey had said he as working on a script that would help two of my map
packs, Den and warlords.
I am hoping it works.
al
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[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:17 AM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP
Hi sorry I just read this email it works thank you
Also my friend wanted you to check out the progress we have so far on the the
Side story
It is still a work in progress
Have not yet updated the user guide add on yet
There are changes to the characters
There are some additions put into it not just in the characters
There are some maps one is blank on purpose that's the one my friend is
working on
The title and the music is there otherwise he still working on it
The last map I have not yet put the intro or victory text in yet
You will notice which maps are still under construction I have their titles
and labeled as such
The second to last map May seem out of place with one of the additions put
into it
At least play the map or check out the victory and in true text to understand
why it's that way
Otherwise this is the progress we have we won't be working on much of it
during the rest the week because it's Thanksgiving
I did notice your other email stating that you are cracking down on finishing
yours
I will understand if you want to wait until you're finished to check it
This link should be correct I try to make sure ahead of time
http
a://www.drpbox.com/s/pts6kn5g5az84rp/den%20of%20the%20slave%20lords%206.0%20m
odded%20beta%20v2.zip?dl=0
On Nov 17, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Oops sorry. That's my fault.
I will send you some sounds for the pain sound, or if you don't want it in,
you can erase the script in the units that are
After_damage_sound health:hook pain
Get rid of the script and that is resolved. Got to look for the sound files
in case you want them. Sorry about that.
al
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Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP
That is definitely more than I knew of a hook horror
Which brings me to what I should've mentioned in the last email
I don't have a sound file called hook pain
Because when I test Play the map it says it can't find that sound file
Any suggestions . Ron
On Nov 17, 2016, at 11:56 AM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
The hook horror done sound is for the last hook horror unit death. The hook
horror death sound actually has the transformation sound. There is no death
transformation sound script flag to add flavor to the transformation so that
was my work around.
The last hook horror has the death_sound script flag Monkey made so I am
thinking the last death will have the transform play then the death sound.
The transform sound can be avoided by just using a different sound= flag or
that unit, so that when it dies, you just hear the death sound.
The hook horror is a cross between a monster terry brooks created and the
dungeons and dragons version.
In the book, the monster grew stronger when damaged, it's rage giving it
more and more power. It can be killed, but it took a while. A weapon master
named Garret Jax wanted to fight it, because he had no equals to his fighting
ability. He wanted a real challenge and the monster was what he wanted to
fight. It was called a Jachyra.
I think of it as a hook horror because I seem to recall a picture of the
monster in the third shannara book. It looked pretty close to it's picture in
a monster manual.
Below is the description from the monster manual of a hook horror.
The hook horror is a bipedal, underground-dwelling monster that looks like a
cross between a vulture and a man with hooks instead of hands.
The hook horror stands about nine feet tall and weighs almost 350
pounds. It has a tough, mottled grey exoskeleton, like that of an insect. Its
front limbs end in 12-inch-long hooks. Its legs end in feet that have three
small hooks, like long, sharp toes. Its head is shaped like that of a
vulture, including the hooked beak. Its eyes are multifaceted. It is thought
that the hook horror is distantly related to the cockroach or cave cricket.
Hook horrors do not have a smell to humans and demihumans, but an animal
would detect a dry musty odor. They communicate in a series of clicks and
clacks made by the exoskeleton at their throats. In a cave, this eerie sound
can echo a long way. They can use this to estimate cavern sizes and
distances, much like the sonic radar of a bat.
Combat: Hook horrors have acute hearing and are surprised only on a roll of
1. They always know their territory, and they try to ambush unsuspecting
travelers or denizens. Each round they swing with both hooks. If in any round
both hit, during that round their beaks hit automatically. They automatically
inflict 2d6 points of damage each round with the beak until at least one of
the hooks is dislodged.
The eyesight of the hook horrors is very poor. They are blinded in
normal light. They use their extremely acute hearing to track and locate
prey. Since their eyesight is so poor anyway, they suffer no combat or
movement penalties if blinded or in complete darkness. They attack silenced
opponents with the penalties others suffer when attacking blind.
Hook horrors are natural climbers, as their hooks give them excellent
purchase on rock surfaces. They can move at normal speed up vertical surfaces
that are not sheer. Their great weight means that they cannot hang from the
ceiling like other insects.
al
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Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 8:22 AM
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Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP
I am wondering if the hook horror done sound file is the hook horror pain
sound file or is that done sound file for something else . Ron
On Nov 16, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Ok, a rough example in a drop box link below.
Essentially the easiest way was to use the death transformation script which
Craig Brett created . You need his name in the map pack settings file. Mine
should already feature that.
When you check it out, after you put the skill, units and sounds in, that the
Hook Horror will start normal, and somewhat weak. After the first 25 damage
it mutates to the next size which will be seen on the screen, and the
transform sound plays.
This works well, because you can make skills o match the power level. You
can increase attacks, health etc. You can even increase damage of the attack
in the unit itself so you don't have to make more skills for that.
I tested this out and it works. It is free for for you to change in what ever
manner you choose to make it challenging for Riku and Ron, meaning quest
powers or however that all works.
You can even make more units if you want the progression to be slower, etc.
The friendly_type worked for me, but you can transform into whatever unit
placed in the script flag.
I was actually kind of happy how well it turned out. Check it out.
Let me know if you have questions or if this doesn't work for your purposes.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68028683/hook%20horror%20example.zip
al
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[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:34 AM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP
Hi my friend and I are wondering if you could send us a hook horror
Every time
Either I'm doing something wrong in order to put it together or I'm missing
something
I am trying to set it up to increase at the attack when it takes damage
Help would be appreciated because I think this would work in the side story
quite well
And less you have another suggestion thank you . Ron
On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Ron,
Sorry, I saw your message yesterday, but I had some things to deal with.
I am glad your friend agreed! I am looking forward to checking it out.
al
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[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 6:14 AM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP
I managed to get my friend to work with me
We've also added more stuff and another map level
So it might be a few more days before you can give an opinion on it . Ron
On Nov 11, 2016, at 10:15 PM, Ron <UISSFleet@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi I thought I'd mention how it went with my friend
He said that he would wait to see how the side story goes before giving his
opinion
On the other hand he is not real happy that I read did the characters
In other words I replace them with the ones from my map pack by making them
easier for me to work them in to the side story
I'm working on finishing the side story and then I was going to have you
check it out see how I did . Ron
On Nov 3, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Your way ahead of me then.
No, he needs to do it and get the map pack under his belt, With your help of
course.
al
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Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:45 PM
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Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP
That could work
But I already have that in my map pack I am already working on
Except jinx does not have one
Ron's mirror counterpart called imperium have meet and have fought to near
death where Ron was able to send him back home but not before leaving a scar
across imperium's right eye where than imperium uses it as a constant
reminder to get revenge imperium happens to also be emperor Tiberius his
right hand man
Alex is mirror counterpart also called Alex I don't think he will make a
comeback Alex strap a anti-matter land mine to mirror Alex is back set the
timer on it and send mirror Alex home screaming nooooo when the transporter
cycle completed Alex said boom
Jinxs mom mirror counterpart died at the age of 15 attempting to choke the
life out of emperor Tiberius where is she almost succeeded at the time she
declared she would be Empress of the Terran empire but she was vaporized by a
young man Who emperor Tiberius made into his right hand man hint hint
I am actually putting some of what you have suggested into my friends idea
Unless you'd like to do it and send me what you come up with
I am open to anything you come up with optional . Ron
On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
No problem. I am glad you liked the side story. I think it could be fun. Oh,
I wasn't saying change your personal works, but like you said, your
characters can be a little different when in anothers work/world. In fact, it
would make sense in a way they were different if this was an alternat
paralell universe. Kind of like a star trek episode where the good captain
kirk and crew encounter their evil versions in another dimension. That might
make an excellent map pack idea for you guys. Evil ron and evil alex, and in
the other dimension, the mother made jinx to kill/fight them to defend
humanity against their evil plans, instead of her prime version in which she
is kind of deranged and homicidal.
Or another universe where Jinx meets evil Jinx. It might be interesting.
Anyway, yeah You got the gist.
al
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Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP
Usually it would help to Play Final Fantasy 7 to understand the movie what's
done some still watch the movie and not play the game
But then they made continuations of the Final Fantasy game on the PlayStation
as well as other game systems they also made at least one that I know of
before final fantasy seven started call before crisis can't remember what
system it's on though
As for the characters in the idea I am open to ideas I was just letting you
know about the actual character itself in case you wanted to try and put
something together from both backgrounds if you want to try and make a
different one I'm open to the possibility
But I'm definitely not changing them in my map pack
But for this map pack idea I'm open to possibilities to help my friend
From what you were coming up with I was going to put it into the map pack and
surprise him
I'm really liking that idea were a pen allows the actual storyline where they
have a separate quest alongside the main quest of the story
I personally like stories that parallel each other especially when both
Cueist seems so close together and yet they still seem to never meet
It always leaves me the impression while reading a book or listening to an
audiobook with a similar story
Where it seems that the two groups may yet meat or may not meet
Storylines like that always make me want to actually keep reading the book to
find out if they eventually do or not
But like I said I am open to possibilities . Ron
On Nov 2, 2016, at 11:00 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I am glad I found it then!
Hmmm, I will have to look up that other Final Fantasy movie. I hadnt even
heard of it. Do you need to rplay 7 to understand the movie? I havent played
that one for a long time.
In the end, your characters are what they are. I was just trying to open up
the possibilities a bit, you know, break a few paradigms?
To be honest, characters you and Alex have ar tough, because they are heavily
influenced by your own desire to make them so much better then super.
This is kind of why superman is really hard to deal with. He flies backwards
in time, reverses planets rotation, lifts continents off the earth's surface
and flings them into outerspace. Once they are this potant, it becomes all
the harder to make them interesting and identifiable.
So what happens? Everyone and their mother throws kryptonite at him. The need
to make him vulnerable makes him a caricature rather then a character. Hope
that made sense.
al
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Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP
Yes that is the sound I've been looking for for sometime now
Yes I do remember seeing the movie I think they didn't quite put everything
together correctly but it still turned out good
But then there were two final fantasy movies that I do recall
Final fantasy spirits within which I know connection to the games
There was final fantasy seven advent children which follow right after final
fantasy sevens storyline
As for this possible storyline most of it would work
The only contradictions are my reference to the quest power and the force
are similar in some ways and I probably should've explain that more in the
first place
quest power can only be used through a quest weapon
The quest wielder can't actually sense or feel The quest power pre say only
when they're about to get hit by another quest ability there are no quest
abilities the consents others
But there are means of blocking the quest weapons connection to the quest
power
That would cause the quest weapon to go dormant
Where then the quest weapon can only be used as a regular weapon
Rikku does not have a quest weapon or access to one
In any case Ron would know enough to inform the local law or in this case
city watch of what happened
Ron is also good at not giving too much away about himself or who's with him
just enough to get the information crossed but not too much
As for Ron visiting this world he always goes down to the planet to see
things for himself in person to get first and experience about the level of
government cultures how they interact and level of technology and every time
he goes down to a planet something always happens to drag him in more
But then he can find out about the evil workings of that world as well
especially when he does not plan it that way as for quest demons are
actually created through the quest power how do not know
And for the magical cell that they teleport in Ron would be very difficult
for them to torture his normal response to questions are Oh really
And if The female apprentice or to attempt feminine charm on Ron he would
then smile with genuine interest but then say too bad we are on opposite
sides I might consider it where usually Ron gets smacked across the face as
a response to his comment but always seems to leave a look on their face as
if they had considered it for a split second and then change their minds
I don't know if this would be considered in your storyline but I thought I'd
give a reference to it in case it came up as a possibility later on
The part about melting two together that would work where the attempt to
merge two creatures together that would work a lot for in my opinion
These are just references from my map pack
Otherwise I think it would work
I won't be able to ask my friends opinion until Monday on till he returns
from his girlfriends
Otherwise I don't have a problem with the way it's going . Ron
On Nov 2, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Ron,
Here is the link to the sound I found. It should be the town portal from
diablo one.
It is as clean as I could get it, so I hope it is useful.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68028683/diablo%20town%20portal.mp3
Wow, 15! That is a lot of sequels for a series of fantasy games that are
called Final, lol.
I remember the movie too, That was a fun movie, although a bit strange.
Ok, here is what I am thinking for your friends alternat map pack.
Ron, Jinx and Rikku end up on Antara , which is the game world. They detected
a strange disturbance featureing the mysterious quest power. The disturbance
was just enough to get their attention, so they decide to check it out.
At the Inn, they have that encounter with an ogre demon.
After the encounter, Jinx sees a black cat huddled in a corner of their room.
She takes pity on it, thinking it was scared. She picks it up, but it
teleports her away with itself.
The player knows it was Tabitha but Ron, Jinx and Rikku did not.
Fearful of what might happen to Jinx, they attempt to use the mysterious
quest power to try and detect Jinx's location. They find the power to be
strangely diffused, like light is diffused thru murky water or a dirty pane
of glass.
The attempt fails, forcing them to figure out another means of looking for
their friend.
They don't go far, since they have to report the attack and dead bodies and
Jinx being whisked away by a cat via magic, to the local city watch. The
constable finds their report is truthful and that they were forced thru self
defense. Just after making the report, Guards come up to the constable,
stating that Gerend has been arrested for his connection with some new slaver
guild. One of gerend's many accomplices had been caught using some strange
coins in an attempt to bribe a guard.
The thug had given up gerend to avoid the gallows, and also the name of a
wizard named Fazoon.
The constable is not surprised by Gerend being dirty and explains to Ron and
Rikku that people had been abducted over the past few months. Mostly they
were low life nobodies, but their friend Jinx could be one of those abducted.
Ron asks if he and his friend could help capture the wizard, in hopes of
finding their friend. After all, the black cat seemed to be a familiar or at
least possessed magic of their own.
The constable tells them that, most likely, the paladins will be leading the
arrest of the wizard, but that he knew one of the paladin's men, a man named
Malcolm Crombie . A good NCO and second assistant to Vinton Marlow who is in
charge of the paladins contingent of men.
That night Malcolm has Ron and Rikku join a group of guards to watch the
back of the house. To their shock, the group sees the house erupt in flames.
A massive fire elemental bursts out of the house and ron with Rikku and some
city guards must fight and defeat it.
After the fight, the house is blackened shards and smoke.
The city guard, rikku and ron were left to search for bodies and clues.
No bodies found, Ron and Rikku left alone among the ruins as the guards give
up and leave.
One of the two friends suddenly discover a secret concealed door by accident,
and they decide to plunge ahead alone, for Jinx's sake.
They go below and discover a labrynth of traps. After they pass thru the
labyrinth, then enter into the laboratory.
They find the lab is partly packed, as if someone packed in a hurry and only
took what they felt most important.
They find formulas and spell scrolls and discover that the wizard fazoon was
actually the cause of the quest power disturbance.
They surmise thru the notes that Fazoon was attempting to meld two beings
into a single entity that could bear the mysterious quest power.
One of the notes showed what seemed like a cat and human hybrid, as well as
ogre and demon, and one particular nasty one. A snake with a woman.
Each note features a number of jotted notes that reveal that Fazoon was
testing by trial and error. A large number of his test subjects have Dead
written by them, some have failed by their category name. Only a quarter of
the test subjects were successes.
Rikku discovers that a page is missing detailing how the Jinx test subject
will be the breakthrough Fazoon needs. The page is half ripped, with the
sentence written split in half. The sentence written is " I will take the cat
woman to.
The other half of the page is stuck underneath a door. She picks the lock
and opens the door to get the paper fragment, but with in the room are the
failed abominations. Horrible mutated creatures that seem to have a strange
siphoning effect on quest power.
After the fight, they find the other half of the page mentions the teleport
circle Fazoon was forced to use.
The friends discover it, and decide to use it.
They land in a jail cell made of a sickly green metal. The metal immediately
glows and begins to drain the two friends empty of their mysterious quest
power.
The weapons and powers are useless, They see that their captor is a drow
wizardess who is accompanied with a variety of creatures.
Two gnolls, an assassin bearing an elf skathe, a second drow female, an
apprentice perhaps. There is also a Halfling, half orc barbarian and a human
cleric.
The wizardess explains that if they attempt to flee, or resist them in any
way, all she needs to do is use a crystal ball located on a table near by and
tell her master. Jinx would then be skinned alive as punishment.
The drow asks them questions.mostly about Jinx, what was used to make her,
how it was done. Rikku states that the drow doesn't know who she and her
master fazoon is messing with.
The drow wizardess simply says that Fazoon is not her master. Tiaxx is the
master, and Tiaxx will rule all.
She tells her apprentice to do what she has to to get the information out of
them, and she teleports away.
A week or more goes by. Ron and Rikku are weak, having only been given water
and bread. They have been tortured for the information. They know if they
tell, they will die and so will Jinx.
Then one day, faint sounds of battle could be heard. The drow apprentice
consults the crystal ball. She is told by Viconia that prisoners had escaped
and her and her friends were needed. Bring everyone she tells her. The
escaped prisoners are quite resourceful.
The apprentice gathers her friends and as many kobolds as possible.
More later
From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:28 AM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: Den of the slave lords WIP
Last I checked final fantasy 15 came out recently at least not too long ago
Final Fantasy 12 was the last One I played before I went blind
I remember playing gauntlet and if I recall there was a sequel and I played
it to something about sorrows in the title
As for Gundams it's OK they're pretty much the same thing just with a
different name but I do remember in some of the episodes they did refer to
some of the regular mobile suits as Mech warriors Who would be custom mobile
suits that would dominate the space battle at least until some Gundams showed
up
As for the characters in the story line I do understand that that is
difficult Any help with the idea would be helpful . Ron
On Nov 1, 2016, at 9:01 PM, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Wow, their up to FF10? Geez.
I actually really enjoyed a PS title called Suikoden. That was such a great
game. The second one of the PS2 was also really good.
I would love to make a map pack similar to that, ut I don't think I could do
it on TB.
I never got to play diablo, but a person I knew let me watch him play it. I
reminded me of Gauntlet. Although much better of course.
I am still looking, although I found some interesting sounds for who I think
are diablo characters. They are not from diablo itself I don't think. Since
going blind my son is the only one who keeps up with that kind of thing now,
lol.
Ah, ok, Gundam. Sorry, I don't know why I went to mech warrior on that one.
Hmmm, Here is the thing. The characters don't fit and just couldn't be in the
original. I am willing to include a little description in a map describing
the characters in passing. Maybe as captured slaves, or as people entering a
portal, but actual interaction of anything more as they are is just really
untenable. If I did include the characters, they would b so changed in
everyway, it would not be what they were, nor what I was already planning.
The paralell idea is fine If he wants to make an alternate timeline were his
characters and mine interact and the like, that's perfectly fine with me. But
it would be a seperte work that was, I guess the term is fan fiction?
Iam at a crossroads. I worked this hard to get the map pack to this point,
but I feel for your friend who just wants to share his creative outlet, which
I understand completely.
Al
