[huskerlug] Re: RPM "Purgatory"
- From: Jim Worrest <jworrest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: huskerlug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:03:47 -0600
Ah, yes, now I see. The only problems I really had was when I went
outside of SuSE--and before I used Apt-4suse. (I think that's what is/was
called.) and it would get rid of "bad" repositories and only let you use
ones that were at least approved by the maker of that program. I have been
rather careful of what I download and try to install, well, usually, careful.
If if has dependencies that are really, really handy to get at, I just don't use
that program. ---Jim
Carl Lundstedt wrote:
> You have to go back a bit in time to see the real horrors of RPM. To
> install an RPM package you'd go to a website like rpmfind.net and search
> (by distro) for your desired package.
>
> So let's say you're installing sweetgame.rpm. You'd download
> sweetgame.rpm and
> rpm -i sweetgame.rpm
> And rpm would reply:
> packagex.1.1.2 and packagey.2.3.0 needed by sweet game (you were lucky
> if it was 2 instead of, perhaps, 20).
>
> So, back to rpmfind.net you'd go and get packagex.1.1.2 and
> packagey.2.3.0 and try to install them.
> rpm -i packagex.1.1.2
> And rpm might reply
> packagez.0.2.2 and packageab.1.9.3 needed by packagex.1.1.2.
> Rinse and repeat.
>
> What would sometimes happen to me is I'd try install a package
> rpm -i packagey.2.3.0
> and I'd get
> packagey.2.3.0 conflicts with packagey.2.3.1 (already installed)
> Then you'd have to decide what to do and whatever you did would probably
> cause trouble.
>
> Back before yum and apt and the like *YOU* the admin had to do all the
> leg work for the package dependencies and resolve all the conflicts. It
> was hell, the so called RPM hell. This was still seen as an improvement
> over compile yourself. That was debatable.
>
> I've had much better luck with yum and the experiment I work with is
> deploying ALL their software with apt because they learned the lessons
> of dependency hell up close and personal.
>
> Hope that explains a little about RPM hell.
>
> Carl Lundstedt
> UNL
>> What is all this about problems with RPMs? I used SuSE for years now
>> and never
>> had any problems with RPMs. I even took alien and made the .deb file of xtrs
>> into an RPM and installed into SuSE 9.3 without a problem. I also have used
>> RPMs earlier versions of SuSE on 9.3, without problems. So, somebody might
>> tell
>> me what the problem is. Happily I'm still a newbie to this problem. ---Jim
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