Category: Change Request / Operations / Clients Originator: Mitchell, Al Priority: Low Issue: Discussions with Lookout Emergency Aid Society resulted in the following request, the data is used by researchers. Addition of an Approximate Deceased Date and Reason for Death fields to HIFIS possibly in the Vitals screen. Al, do you have a list of "Reasons for Death" currently or collected in past you could share with me? I would like to add them to my request. I looked at your spreadsheet but could not find any. We'll have to look at this and decide on a list of values if it is added to HIFIS. My thoughts are to keep the list very simple i.e. Natural Causes Unnatural Suicide Unnatural Health Issue Unnatural Substance Abuse Unknown Maybe a really simple solution is to have a Deceased check box on the Vitals screen and not include and Approximate Date or Reason for Death. The Deceased check box could also be tied to the Activate/Deactivate function. Your thoughts? Is the approximate date important? Maybe just the Approximate Date as you currently collect? From the information you provided I think including the approximate date is very relevant. We'll have to see what happens as to whether or not the field will make it into HIFIS 3. Al: We use an `approximate date' as again we may not get exact details, and we may be hearing of the person's death from others who will say `last week' vs an exact date (most of our folks don't make it into the obit pages) The useful of that date though has been where we have seen unusual patterns (eg, when there have been a surge in OD's) which then let us feed into some policy discussions, or it can enable us to use the `deceased' as an outcome in evaluating services particularly over long periods. We used this to good effect for instance in evaluating Outreach services some years back when we were able to see that the mortality rates for people from the DTES were 10% lower when shelter stays were followed by Outreach services vs just whatever happened. At least know the approximate date can establish a temporal relation between the points in time we serve people and this outcome. I would certainly favor something simple on causes as you suggest. Karen: What I am required to report for reasons for death by the health authority is: Unexpected death Suicide Physical illness (would include cancer, pneumonia, etc.) Drug overdose Disease outbreak Motor vehicle accident Medication error Refusing treatment (we added this to our reportables, as two deaths over 5 years have been because of this). What we wanted to add: Chronic health condition (would include AIDS, lung disease, cancer, etc.) Solution: Fields added. Still need to finalize list of reasons of death. Status: In Development Assigned to: Dagher, Henry