I think there is something to learn from everything you see. Sometimes it is lighting, sometimes prop utilization, sometimes exposure. When it is free to look, and select those images you care about, it is better than Pop Photo and the rest of the consumer level rags out there. So if you can stand the Kids' ridicule, I think there is something to be learned with a few electrons only wasted. and some time. Frank Filippone red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I no longer receive nor wish to download the rag. MHO So basically, what you said... Bob Bob Adler