[openbeos] Re: status of OpenBeOS
- From: "Ingo Weinhold" <bonefish@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 02:52:14 +0200 CEST
"Michael Phipps" <mphipps1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >Strong yes. I can't even provide a CVS repository on my machine, if
> >simultaneous ssh connections don't work. I've been hoping for this
> > for
> >years...
>
> Why would you choose to run a CVS repository on BeOS? Is it just so
> that you will not have multiple machines?
Mmh, do you mean, I should buy another machine, just to run my CVS on
it? CVS is not a real server task (unless you're planning to provide it
for thousands of user, of course), it's just something like an FTP
server (or rather an ssh daemon), I'd like to be able to do with my
machine. While others may be interested in being able to have multiple
users use their box, I don't care at all. If I have a machine, and it
is always in the net, I want to also use it as a low-demand server,
e.g. for CVS to work on a non-open-source project together with other
developers.
> >> Way 1? Nearly none.
> >> Way 2? Who knows? We would have to rethink parts of the API. It
> > > would
> >> really all depend on what we want way2 to do. It would probably
> > > require
> >massive work on the part of the media kit and app_server groups.
> >
> >Life is hard. Sometimes satisfying solutions require much work.
>
> I don't disagree. :-) Otherwise I would be doing something else with
> my time. :-)
Sure, we're all stupid enough to waste our time with cloning an OS
virtually noone knows. ;-)
> I just want to be sure that we are doing the Right Thing. It isn't
> smart to play "Keep up with the Jones'" (or the Torvald's or the
Jolitz's) just for its own sake. If there is a good reason that many
people will want to have multiple people logged into an OBOS machine in
terminal mode, than maybe we should do it. I just haven't seen anything
really gripping yet.
Well, this discussion is not entirely new. I remember vaguely (though
just coming from a party being reasonably drunk ;-) that we had it
before. Maybe the CVS/ssh example is not obvious enough, or maybe I'm
just contorted by being able to just log into a fast machine (at the
university) and run a program. You simply can't do serious networking
without true multiuser capabilities. Thus you disable the OS for
universities/schools and companies.
And just be honest, if a user in a pseudo-multiuser environment is
seriously interested in data from other users, it should be rather
simple to get access to it. Maybe your a four year old kid can't do it
or your grandmom, but there're virtually no barriers, if you don't
protect processes from each other.
CU, Ingo
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