Hi Scott! From: "Scott Mansfield" > Second, let's pick on Word for this one. In its default configuration > a lot of the useful menu options are hidden by default unless one > selects "Advanced Menus" from a dialog sheet buried three-odd levels > deep without a clear path to get to these so-called "advanced > properties." Don't even get me started on the toolbars. Well... for a beginner or a casual user it's good thing! It's only that they hide the wrong menu options! :-))) > Finally, have you seen the newest-n-greatest feature of Longhorn > (http://www.winsupersite.com/)? It's called the "sidebar." It eats up > even more precious screen real-estate, it is always present, and it > does *everything*: plays movies, holds shortcuts (in addition to the > ones in the start menu and on the desktop), has a clock (in addition to > the one in the taskbar), shows static pictures and slide shows, has a > search feature (in addition to the one in the start menu and the one in > explorer and the one that you get when you right click), takes certain > options out of the start menu and places said options in the sidebar > thereby further diluting the start menu's role, et cetera. That, my > friends, is confusion and obfuscation in the extreme. I'm sorry I see that feature very useful! If they put enough AI in that sidebar I bet it'll be widely used! > >> Hey! That's what I don't like about some people. You say > >> something, and > >> then one comes and digest all meanings of that phrase. I think it's because we all are programmers. We're supposed to do that! :-))) > > Calm down a bit. Just a suggestion, don't bite my head off! ;-) ... mmmmmmm... I'm calm now! :-) > >>> [-=Snip=-] > > What I was trying to say originally is that I feel we should not try to > decide what's best for our customers and by inheritance constrain them > into "our" way of doing things. Adi (and please don't take this > personally friend) seemed to think that only "lazy" programmers used > the command line, at least that's the impression I got reading Adi's > writings. I wanted to offer Adi possibly others my perspective as an > embedded systems and device driver developer (which I don't consider > "lazy" at all) that the CLI can be a very useful and powerful tool, and > still has it's place in personal computing universe alongside the GUI. > I truly believe that these two elements are complimentary, not > exclusive. YOU are RIGHT my friend! I just misunderstood what you wanted to say! > At the same time I really appreciate Adi's perspective. I'll be the > first to admit that as a low-level developer I'm often working through > tunnel vision because of the degree of focus required for this kind of > work. Reading Adi's writings and ideas it's refreshing to see a bigger > picture. Do you'll use DDD? :-)))))))))))))))))))) Adi.