[openbeos] Re: patch for vim on haiku

  • From: Michael Phipps <mphipps1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:47:52 -0500

Something else to consider is that BSD is primarilly a CLI system (at least by 
default). X Windows is an *add-on* to BSD. It is not integral to the system 
like app_server is to Haiku. 

My personal take is that neither Vim nor any other cli editor should be 
included into a downloadable Haiku base. Downloading software with Haiku is 
pretty easy. I think that we need to make the minimal download as small as 
possible while providing what most people need. StyledEdit is an incredible 
piece of work and I think that is it more than adequite for what most people 
will want/need and should be showcased since it is a Haiku native app. :-D

Note - I say this as an absolute Vim bigot who uses Vim everywhere. :-)


On 2005-03-25 at 10:25:07 [-0500], Axel Dörfler wrote:
> "Jonas Sundström" <jonas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Ingo Weinhold <bonefish@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >  ...
> > > What speaks for vim is that it is the only terminal-based editor. We need 
> > > such a thing or otherwise can't edit anything when logged in from a 
> > > remote machine.
> > Even some (all?) of the BSDs include more simple, self-explanatory editors, 
> > in their base system, offering a less steep learning curve. And the BSDs 
> > make an effort to keep anything that isn't essential out of the base 
> > system. So even in a server-oriented platform there is need 
> > for a more self-explanatory editor. And there are plenty of them to choose 
> > from.
> 
> Unlike the BSDs we have a great GUI that comes as part of the system by 
> default. If someone needs an editor on the command line, we can as well 
> provide something better than nedit, even if it does have a higher learning 
> curve :-)
> 
> Bye,
>    Axel.

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