scott, the work at ports.haiku-files.org is great, I love the setup. I'm curious as to installing ports... I've just read into beporter, and will try that now... but I'd previously just been downloading the precompiled versions and extracting to my home dir... this creates the ./common folder with the nested files... I've then been pushing includes into the /boot/develop/headers dir (in subdirs) and the libs in /boot/develop/libs/x86 ... etc.... Is this the right way to go about it? I suppose I should try a 'make install' via beporter and see what that does... should've tried that before writing this actually :) but either way, this is the way I thought things would be done without reading any manuals :) I also downloaded gcc 3.4.3 from the bebits site and it all seems to be going ok on haiku... is this the latest version of gcc available? Thanks, steven. _________________________________________________________________ Win a Nokia E51 with mobile Hotmail SMS alerts http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/compIntro.aspx?compId=4589