[openbeos] Re: donating

  • From: "Karl vom Dorff" <haikubounties@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 00:19:22 -0400


Thanks for the comments.

I'm not really looking for a thank you to myself, but a Haiku thank you to all those who donated towards the bounties. I personally thanked each donator in an email, but now it was donated towards a different cause, and I just think it's normal to do such; that is, if you'd like people to donate in the future again.

I just don't understand why everything takes so damn long. It was that way with communicating the start of this project, with answers, with everything. It doesn't take 3 weeks to write a paragraph, it takes 3 minutes, max. It may take longer to figure out what to do with the money yes, that may take 3 weeks.

I guess it all comes down to a lack of organization, but I'm glad to see this is being discussed and being worked out.

Anyways, I would like to continue helping Haiku, but everything has been more disappointing than a gratifying experience. So, I hope that with the new changes things will flow more smoothly and efficiently.


From: "Jorge G. Mare (a.k.a. Koki)" <koki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [openbeos] Re: donating
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:34:39 -0700

Hello Karl,

I take the liberty of apologizing to you on behalf of the Haiku team (not sure what other term to use here) for letting this fall through the cracks.

An announcement has already been drafted, and is in the process of being reviewed. I expect to be able to post it on the website soon.

Thank you for your patience, and I really hope you will keep working with us in advancing the Haiku cause in the future. :-)



Karl vom Dorff wrote:
In light of the 'growing pains' of Haiku (as quoted by OSnews), and the recent heated discussions here, I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents (quite a bit more actually) and blow some air into the fire....

Through my efforts, ~ $2000 was donated to Haiku. Most recently on Aug. 5th, $750 was donated on behalf of those who donated to Haikubounties, and an additional $500 will be donated on Oct 31st if the USB bounty isn't taken up.

On Aug. 5th (3 weeks ago), I asked (as a condition of the donation) that along with the donatiion, an official acknowledgement and little thank you be posted on Haiku's website, as well as an outline of what would be done with the money. Also, that Haiku administer the bounty idea and host it (under my direction) from now on.

What has happened so far? A big fat nothing...

How do those who donated to Haikubounties really know that the money they donated went to Haiku without an announcement from Haiku? I'm glad that they take my word for it, because that is what happened, but it should still be acknowledged and thanked and the info made publicly available. This shouldn't take three weeks.

I'm pretty pissed off, and feel as though Haiku doesn't care, and quite frankly feel as though my efforts are moot. So, when the deadline approaches for the last bounty, if things haven't changed, I quit fundraising for Haiku.

Does it make me think again about donating money to Haiku when I see 16 month old financial statements, no conditions are met, there's no acknowlegdement, etc? You bet. Haiku has sold me not to donate any more money due to their inability to manage, ridiculous delays, and sheer incompetence.

With respect to the website... this is all being gone about the wrong way. Why do I see one person, Waldemar, in charge of everything? Why do I see one 'plonetest' site? Who says Haiku's website and the drupal theme should have only 9 topics in the navbar menu? What if, as it should according to the condition of the donated money by Haikubouties, the theme should include 'bounties' in the navbar?

The thing is, there should be multiple websites for those taking part in the contest that people can vote on, and it shouldn't be limited to one Haiku Drupal theme. Just as in the icon contest, you shouldn't be limited to icon-o-matic to create your icons. You should use whatever implementation works best, whether it be mambo, wordpress, drupal or whatever. You should be allowed to add whatever you want in the navbar with the navbar contents listed here: http://haiku-os.org/learn.php?mode=news_view&id=411
as a basis for what should be on the website. Leave it up to the people who vote for the new website what should and shouldn't be included on the site and what system it uses, not what one person who made the contest says what should be on it and what it uses, or what Koki or Axel suggests he thinks is right...

And that, was my rant.



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