> whoah Marcus, calm down, stop seeing conspiracys everywhere. > im not trying to start a flame war, and im sure neither is helmar. What's wrong with this picture. I'm the one known for flying off the handle, and here I actually had a bit of restraint. I must be getting old. > there have been a few compelling reasons for breaking binary Compelling...no. > compatibility mentioned back when R5 was still being worked on be > be,inc (gcc 3.0, better kernel virtual memory , performance issues, > etc), so it might not be a bad idea to consider doing so if there are > compelling reasons for us to do so. yes, it would be a good thing to > keep compatability if possible, but it should not be so sacred that we > get into the mess of trying to keep compat with a 20 year old os. ;) We're not trying to keep compatibility with a 20 year old, us, but to just run out and immediately break binary compatibility is foolish. A 6 mos. (minimum) to a one or two year window to 'Phase out' compatibility is more appropriate. > Be,inc completly broke binary compat once, and there were minor breaks > each release. I'd like to avoid breaks, minor or major in any release.If functionality deprecates it, phase it out, don't break things. > second, helmar is on our side. OBOS and beunited both want the same > thing. do you think linus gets this worried when the ceo of red hat > makes a suggestion? I'm going to stay out of the politics on this one. I Know Better (tm). Best Regards, David . * * * . \|/ * * , . * ' * . . . * , * --*-- . ` * , . * , . David Sowsy . /|\ BeOS Rebel and Coder . * . http://dsowsy.nanorevolution.com . * . * . .