On 5/21/07, Hugo Santos <hugosantos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: <snip>
But let's focus. People are taking these guidelines too seriously in the sense that they feel they can't use Haiku's name or artwork. That is not the case if you _ask permission_ to use them. I'm sure you'll be authorized to use Haiku's name if whatever you are doing is not considered damaging to its name by the admin team. The admin team, and the Haiku community in all just benefit from additional exposure. Assume that everyone wants the project to have that additional exposure as long as it is not harmful to Haiku's name, which is the sole reason for the guidelines to exist. In the end, the amount of time it takes to submit and evaluate a case just depends on how complex it is. If a demo CD just adds some new applications a decision should be made in fairly little time and thus should be no obstacle. However be ready for the people who decide to disagree with you, that's how it works.
I agree here - if we look back at what caused this entire "distro guidelines" issue in the first place, it was primarily a result of the Pingwinek distro that came out. Many in the community and probably the Haiku admins themselves probably felt that this distro was "damaging" to the Haiku name because it associated Haiku with Penguins, GNU, and thus somewhat: Linux (especially since Pingwinek was already a Linux distro). This mostly sent the opposite message that Haiku wanted to deliver to both users and developers alike. Up to that point, nobody seemed to be bothered with the possibility that someone might conceivably throw a couple BeOS apps on an image and make a download available. As happens occasionally, it is a situation where the actions of few cause many to suffer. Now everyone who throws together a Haiku image for distribution must follow the guidelines set forth or ask special permission if they wish to be exempt.
A warning point for the admin team though, as a developer i'm well aware that people don't always have time to handle Haiku's issues, however, if the handling of these requests takes too long, the community stops believing in the processes (hint: financial report).
And so, this is the point where anyone wishing to provide such a demo/promo will probably need to know who to contact directly in order to request possible permission to use the Haiku name/logo - if that's even going to be an option in these special cases. I would expect that in order to obtain such approval, they will have to make available their demo image/disc for evaluation by the Haiku Admins. If the Haiku Admins determine that the community should best make such decisions, then these persons would need to provide their promos/demos to the community directly for evaluation, correct? - Urias