>On Sunday 23 June 2002 22:21, you wrote: >> I agree that openbeos should have an ISO available, but disagree about what >> it needs... >> >> I'm not sure we really need to offer everything, just enough to get the >> user up and running. I mean Free/OpenBSD don't come with all that stuff, >> just an OS. Depending on how you install you then have to add X and the > >Yes thats true, but from a user, support perspective, I think that we need to >include the things like what Be included, and that probably includes a >browser, dev tools at the most compilcated level - I am not talking IE-style >browser, I really mean a very simple thing like N+. But one of the ways that BeOS got lambasted in the press was that Net+ was "not good enough". See - my personal take is that the only good distro has tons of software on it. A complete solution. So that my Mom can install it and never have to *download* another piece of software. Even Lindow's "click and run" is less, I think, that what OBOS users should have. I would far rather have everything available on the CD. But I know that we don't have the manpower (or woman power) to do that. Nor should we need to. There is a symbiotic advantage in allowing/requesting BU to do this for us. >This is what I am pushing for, but what I also want to push for is so that the >user can download *just* the OBOS distro and use it on its own, it comes with >everything needed to do everything basic, i.e. StyledEdit for >wordprocessing/editing, nothing complex like a full word processor. basic is a very relative term. Is ftp basic? IRC? Playing some games? Should Windows define what is basic? Also, think about the MacWrite effect - if a tool of sufficient quality is shipped, by default, almost no one ever competes with it. For all we complain about MSFT, we are doing the same thing. >I agree 100% with you, there was somone on the prefs team who looked into >this, but its sort of been put on the back burner I think. A lot of talk happened for a while, then it dried up and went away.