I have been doing some contract work for a local media production company and one thing I heard them discussing was the idea to try to build such a device, develop custom software/OS/hardware, and make a home theater system essentially (with some additional featuers that I can't mention but take my word are very nice:) ). I had to suggest using OpenBeOS instead of writing our own OS (it didn't have a name yet at this point) and after much discussion and what could possibly be called "evangelizing":) , we estimated that the current software and tools available for BeOS would enable us to write the software for such a project in probably about 4-5 months (after the open-source versions of all the components we need are finished), assuming we are able to get the hardware together with no (driver, size, etc..) problems. So as to your argument of being a long way away from getting people to use Haiku over Linux in an embedded environment, I can tell you from experience :) that Haiku has a lot of features that sell itself. Once it is 100% free and open, I can see many industries using it or at least trying it out for many types of embedded projects. The modular nature of it appeals to the embedded systems mindset, and it is by far the easiest platform/API to program on that I have seen anywhere. BFS, the concept of replicants, BMessages and the ability to pass them thu a network using server\client systems like as MUSCLE, the ability to strip unnecessary things out of the OS cleanly and relatively easily: All these things sound very nice to embedded software designers, I can't wait to see what all the world decides to do with Haiku. -Ben > The other week I had an idea of getting together with some friends to > make a > prototype DVD-HDTV-PVR-MP3 box, looked around the internet for a > wonderful > chipset to use (Motorola and $secret_company), found something just > perfect > (which also ships with a Linux development kit and reference boards > which an > IDE connection), made a few phone calls, and basically was told to > piss off. > > If you're not a chinese or taiwanese company interested in buying > millions > and millions of these chips/boards, they dont wont to waste time with > you > (at least, not the people I spoked to). But since when did > "marketing" have > strategic vision anyway. As I once read, the best marketing effort > 99% of > these guys did was get themselves employed. Getting anyone > interested in > using Haiku instead of Linux for embedded stuff is a **long** time > away. > Heck, why do they even consider Linux when there is NetBSD (the most > portable free OS out there). But since when did marketing listen to > engineers... > > The desktop is where its at, for now...