Hi Simon, Simon Taylor wrote:
I'll reply properly in the morning. Need to deal with some annoyances now though.From: "Jorge G. Mare (a.k.a. Koki)" <koki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Here are some potential audience groups, what content they might like, what problems there are with that at the moment and how we might cater to their needs in the future. Users: Might like to see introductory how-to-use Haiku presentations and 3rd party apps in the pipeline. Problems: Haiku is pre-alpha, so how-tos might not represent how things will work in the final release, and users will not be able to go and try out the techniques immediately. There are no really exciting and cool apps in development at the moment. In the future: would be well suited to a MacWorld style expo event.WC does not target (end) users ATM.In my last email you accused me of looking at this too personally. Here I made a concerted effort to think of all the possible audience groups who might be interested, analyse what they would want from a conference type of event, give the problems with that ATM, and suggest how to cater for them in future. I thought that was obvious, frankly. Nowhere do I say WC should be aimed at any of these groups. My entire point was that it is not well suited to any of them.
Please, don't take an observation as a personal accusation. I don't accuse you or anyone else of anything. It's that you just seem to insist on taking this whole discussion into different grounds than what was originally intended. Read the subject: this is about WalterCon 2007, not the potential future of WC one or two years from now.
Sorry to repeat myself like a broken record (yeah, I am old generation), but who is talking about 3rd party app devs? You are the one who bring up 3rd party devs. What you are doing is like creating a problem so that you can give a solution.3rd Party Application Developers: Would like to know about the process of programming on Haiku, and the API. Problems: Haiku is not stable enough to host development so people would be directed to BeOS. Might feel cheated to find a programming for Haiku conference is actually a programming-for-dead-commercial-OS conference. In the future: Would be perfect targets for a conference or development seminar event.No, I'm seeing future opportunity for a successful conference. If there is a rule somewhere that I am not allowed to discuss anything unless you have mentioned it before, I must have missed it.
Of course there is no such rule. But it would be nice if we could focus the specific topic at hand: WC07. If you want to make a thorough analysis of the future opportunities for a conference, that's fine, but maybe you need to do it in a separate thread.
Again, I don't why you waste your time writing about business people, as they were nowhere in any of my previous messages.Obviously discussing anything you haven't mentioned is a waste of time. As is disagreeing, apparently.
Ehem... It is not a matter of disagreement. I made that comment because you are quoting me and responding to my statements with unrelated stuff. But if you want to take everything I say the wrong way, I can't help it. :)
[who will probably have calmed down by the morning] ps: Thanks for those other replies - it seems I missed a category of people - the long-term interested people who haven't quite got around to developing for Haiku yet. I can actually see these forking out for a conference and getting real value out of workshop-style activities aimed squarely at introducing them to Haiku development.
Simon, my friend, chill out. Peace, Koki