The first WC lost about $500. The ones after that were a net gain (05) or close to even (06). That's from my failing memory, though. I also *think* that some of the t-shirt batch from the first WC were shirts that we sold later. So it may not be as much of a loss as it seems. As far as the artwork costs, that was something that made a lot of sense, given the quality of artwork from the community back then. Now, y'all should make Stippi do it. :-) The artwork was what made the t-shirts worth having. I don't regret or think that anyone should regret that at all, although, again, if a qualified volunteer could do it, that is all the better. :D I can't speak to 2007's financial reports. -----Original Message----- From: "Ralf Schlke" [teammaui@xxxxxx] Date: 07/21/2008 10:36 To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [openbeos] Re: WalterCon 2008: Change of Plans On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:48:59 +0200, Michael Phipps <michael.phipps@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Incidentally, the first few WalterCon's were self supporting (or very > close to it). The org spent very little on them, except for things like > the projector (which, of course, Haiku, Inc. still has). Hi, the Financial reports say me others :-) http://www.haiku-os.org/about/haiku_inc What ever, in the past have haiku.inc pay not real needed stuff (thats my privet belief) eg: WalterCon Artwork = $300 etc.. So look in the futures, When planing a WalterCon , look where the most Haiku developer living and then now start a regestration etc... But i think befor Haiku inc plans a WalterCon then make the Finacel reports from 2007 ready. (thats is my criticism on Haiku inc) All in all make Haiku inc good job and i hope the transition is be ready end of 2008 Ralf -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/