On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Stephan Assmus <superstippi@xxxxxx> wrote: > > Dennis d'Entremont wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Urias McCullough <umccullough@xxxxxxxxx > > > > wrote: > > > > > 2008/7/22 Jorge Mare <kokitomare@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > > http://www.haiku-os.org/getting_involved_in_haiku > > > > > > Oh...we need to update that indeed :) > > > > > > Still mentions M. Phipps as the "accountant". > > > > > > > Part of the reason that I don't put a whole lot of faith in that page is > > precisely that which you have just mentioned. It's hard to tell if what > > is listed is still needed or not. > > > > I also think that new community members can be quite shy and maybe not > > willing to speak up themselves right away. Maybe a weekly or monthly > > message saying something like "We need your help" and listing current > > tasks that general users and/or professionals can help with would > > encourage more volunteers. > > > > Also, if there are a few people like me who don't check the website super > > often (other than the RSS feeds of the main page) then we might not > > notice when/if these sections of the website get updated. > > > > The last time I offered to help with general stuff nothing ever came of > > it so that's also a little discouraging but won't stop me from donating > > some of my time in the future. I may be qualified to help around the > > website with general maintenance and content updating. I'm not a super > > writer but I can manage. I will offer my help in that regard. > > Unfortunately I am not an accountant, lawyer, or copyright nerd so I'm > > sorry I can't help much there. > > We absolutely need help with all this stuff. The problem with regards to > these administrative tasks and the website are: > > a) People who see what work needs to be done and then try hard enough to > execute to get results are very rare. > > b) With code you can send patches. If memory serves, every single new > contributor we have got has started by simply popping up with a patch. > Sometimes they have been active in the bugtracker before, or have even > attached patches to tickets. I may be forgetting someone, but I cannot > remember a single instance where someone introduced himself on the > developer list and asked for work or an introduction or help with getting > started, and ever actually became a contributor. Regardless of how many > nice welcome messages were the reaction or how throurough the getting > started help. So either people pop up out of nowhere, see the work and > become motivated enough to do it, or they don't. What is extremely helpful > is accurate instructions on the website for getting and building the > source. From what I hear from my student Andrej, our source code layout is > quite lucent. The problem is that I don't see a similar infrastructure for > becoming involved with the administration or website. There is no basis on > which people can pop up out of nowhere and fix something which always > bothered them. Any ideas what we could do about this? Is what I am saying > even making sense? :-) Yes you are making sense. This is one of the things I was trying to get at. The info might be there but maybe not in an enticing format. > > > Best regards, > -Stephan > > > -- Dennis d'Entremont IT Professional CNA, MCP, A+, ITIL LinkedIn Profile - http://www.linkedin.com/in/dennisdentremont http://www.techalpha.net - Tech Alpha Computer Forums http://nerfd.net - Nerfd Technologies http://eComStation.ca - Your Canadian Source for eCS and OS/2 Software! http://Haikuware.com - Software for Haiku http://Haiku-OS.org - Haiku Operating System