Helmar Rudolph <helmar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > A developer may be a user, but he certainly doesn't > represent that part of the "user universe" that eventually > shells out the bucks. Yeah, and we're all evil and don't like light. That statement is as shallow as thinking that a user would know what is best for him UI-wise. Creating good UIs is certainly something different from creating good code, but they also certainly not contradict each other. Each ability is based on education/experience, and each can be learned/ understood by everyone who cares enough. You may not like developers but they are just people like everybody else ;-) Adios... Axel.