[openbeos] Re: Tracker icons
- From: Stephan Aßmus <superstippi@xxxxxx>
- To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:58:33 +0200
Helmar,
> for the record: I have never used the word "less intelligent" or
> "less experienced" in any of my mails - for good reason. Diesen Schuh
> ziehe ich mir deshalb nicht an.
I know that you have never _written_ these exact words. That's why I used
the word "implied". Wether you did this on purpose or not... if you
carefully read the replies of the others, you will notice lot's of remarks
that show that what you have written can and is being interpreted in this
direction. So maybe you do have some room for improvement on your
discussion skills.
Just the fact that you back up your arguments by saying you have the
experience to know this... why should that make anyone believe you more?
Sure, it saves you (and your reader) some time. But really, why should this
make anyone believe you more? Basically all it does, is tell the reader
something about the opinion you have of yourself.
> My argument has therefore not been based on the assumption that I
> speak to "less experienced or less intelligent" people, but on the
> fact that I am on the side that you are unlikely to be or have been
> on, and that this 'other side' (read: its insight and experience in
> THAT field) should to be taken into consideration. Whether you do it
> or not is entirely up to you.
> I have gone through all this before in my life (incl. the
> consequences), and I like BeOS/Haiku, which is why I have decided to
> write to this list so that you DON'T fall into the same trap. That's
> all.
You obviously invested a lot of time in writing all this. That is very nice
of you. But your argument is a tough one, because you seem fail to
acknowledge that this project is carried by the people after all, it
doesn't really matter what is written as "our" intention publically on the
website. It really boils down to the motivation of each individual
developer to invest time and effort into this project. For many, it is the
pure fun and gain of personal knowledge and experience, and also the
acknowledgement of their work by the others in the team. (This is just my
opinion of course.) If you can try to view your position from this
perspective, you will see that you have a really hard time to change
anything towards the way you would see us be more "successful".
I come to think it would be a worthwhile thing to have a poll up on our
website or somewhere "What is your personal motivation to work on Haiku?
(Be honest!)". [The result would have to be dynamically updated every three
months or so depending on who is actually working on Haiku at the time.] If
you get an honest "average primary" motivation, that would be an
interesting thing... and maybe then you would have some target for your
argumentation. My apologies up front, if I'm the only one who does this for
the fun, experience and for the satisfaction of the accomplishment.
Best regards,
-Stephan
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