[openbeos] Re: Ticket #1222

  • From: "Matt Madia" <mattmadia@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 18:00:28 -0400

On 5/19/07, Waldemar Kornewald <wkornewald@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Matt,

On 5/19/07, Matt Madia <mattmadia@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> A few days ago  i started working on
> http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/1222   ,  "check if
> AboutHaiku lists an acknowledgment for all packages"


>  The credits for advertising materials seems to contain text that would
> be appropriate for AboutHaiku.

Hmm, I don't think that AboutHaiku is advertising material, but if you
just want to use that as a template when acknowledgment is needed,
then why not.

Sorry for the awkwardness of that...
Some licenses require advertising / marketing materials to also contain a
brief acknowledgment.
Eg,  "This product includes software developed by the NetBSD Foundation,
Inc. and its contributors."
IMO, that quote is similar to acknowledgments in R5's About BeOS, eg
"Contains security software licensed from RSA Data Security Inc."
Although now looking at AboutHaiku, it is a bit more informative.

As far as I can tell, there is no specific requirement to include the text
> in AboutHaiku.

AFAIK, some libraries require a user-visible acknowledgment in the
binary application's "About" dialog, so in those cases we'd have to
add them to AboutHaiku. Complete licenses should better have a
separate file, though.

> An entire directory of individual text files of copyright notices.
> I'm not certain about the ideal hierarchy and nomenclature
> eg,  legal/NetBSD.copyright ,  NetBSD.disclaimer,   NewOS.copyright,
> NewOS.disclaimer,  LGPL.copyright, LGPL.disclaimer
> eg,  legal/NetBSD/copyright,  disclaimer    legal/LGPL/Copying,

I think we just need a folder where all those files can be put. No
need to create a complete hierarchy since you probably won't have lots
of files per license, anyway.

> Both copyrights are NetBSD and differ in the acknowledgment quote.
>  *      This product includes software developed by the NetBSD
>  *      Foundation, Inc. and its contributors.
>                      vs.
>  *      This product includes software developed by Christopher G.
>  *      for the NetBSD Project.
> In this type of case, are we allowed the freedom to condense the latter
> quote into "and its contributors." of the first?

Unfortunately, I don't know. I'm no lawyer. I'd rather be on the safe

> Across multiple files, there may also be versions of the license that
> differs in the clauses.
> --currently i cannot re-locate examples of this.
> --but imagine lib/src1 has a NetBSD license with clauses 1,3, and 4  and
> lib/src2 with a NetBSD license with clauses 1,2,3 and 4.
> Would i need to reproduce each copyright notice individually or simply
> reproduce the one with more clauses?

Since all those files have different copyrights I think you'd have to
reproduce all of them.

> On a similar note, some groups use the same copyright notice for
> years.
> Aside from that, the copyrights notices are exact duplicates.
> eg,  lib/src4  has Copyright (c)  1997   ,lib/src5 has   Copyright
(c)  1998
>    , lib/src6 has Copyright (c) 2001
> How would this situation be handled?
> reproduce the earliest date,   the most recent, or create a custom
> Copyright (c) through the years 1997 - 2001"

If these are source files of different libraries and all of them
require acknowledgments then I think you need to create a separate
copyright statement for each library. If it's only one library I'd say
it's OK to just use the earliest date (or the one that comes with the
license file?).

ok trying to paraphrase...
1. each library must have its own copy of its copyright/license/disclaimer.

2. within that library, if there's multiple versions of the same license,
(eg, different copyright holder, acknowledgment quote, or license clauses)
include all versions.

3. also there are some libraries that contain multiple and different
licenses, eg  src/system/libroot/posix/string has licenses from NewOS and
The Regents of University of California. Again, include all versions.

( NewOS License :

On a side note, are there any plans to somehow automate the process of
gathering copyright notices in the future?
Something like adding tags of some sort to the source code, which could then
be used to parse and generate copyright documentation?
or creating LIBRARY.copyright files inside each library directory
eg,  src/libs/crypt/md4.copyright , md5.copyright

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