I hope the name has a bit of chic/panache unlike Windows or Breadbox *snigger* but without being pretentious. Beauty is only skin deep? Yes but people make all kinds of judgements based on first impressions. That goes for the name and the look. I think OB should have slightly different windows from R5 so you can tell it's not R5. Maybe a slightly different shade of yellow for tabs. Maybe slightly different buttons on the tabs ie. a bit more contemporary. I might knock up a design for DarkWyrm if I can be arsed. Kevin >On that note.. any nearer on the naming issue? Maybe look >into African/Asian/American mythology... there's plenty of >stuff. OTOH, even a product called "Lindows" can attract >eye-balls. > >Helmar