[openbeos] Re: Progress reports
- From: "François Vincent" <batuque@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:11:53 +0100
Nielx did a very good work in that way not so long ago:
http://www.haiku-os.org/blog/nielx/2008-03-31/haiku_alpha_1_status_update_2
See ya,
François Vincent
2008/5/15 Euan Kirkhope <euan.kirkhope@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> 2008/5/15 Stephan Assmus <superstippi@xxxxxx>:
>>
>> Waldemar Kornewald wrote:
>>> An active, "hands dirty" community and frequent progress updates are
>>> probably a great way to attract more developers, but of course you can
>>> just be a "lean back" community and maybe get your R1 in 2014 (I actually
>>> believe it'll be in 2012) and your oh-so-great R2 in 2025, so you can
>>> sway in nostalgia while other people already use Minority Report-like
>>> interfaces.
>>
>> Oh you mean the one where you need to take a break every 3 minutes because
>> your arms hurt? And then need to take another break every 30 minutes
>> because you need to sit down for a change? :-)
>>
>>> Or you can get your hands dirty and make Haiku a more attractive project
>>> for new developers. Not that I'd believe that Haiku will ever innovate
>>> into an interesting direction, but most of you seemed to care about this
>>> tiny little irrelevant OS.
>>>
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> Well, I'm wasting my time here.
>>
>> :-) What if some people think that making these progress reports is not
>> "relevant" enough to attract actual developers?
>>
>> Seriously, your attempt to motivate in all honour, I doubt a little that
>> the make-feel-bad strategy will give good results. Instead, I believe that
>> Haiku will have to do this for itself: We seriously need the first alpha.
>> Unfortunately, there will not be many obvious "must have this" features on
>> the surface. So Haiku will hopefully attract developers that can look
>> deeper and see the potential and appreciate the lack of quite a few
>> annoying things you have to live with when using the other operating
>> systems. At least that is what motivates me and I think a few other Haiku
>> devs. And there has got to be some minds who think alike in this huge
>> world. If you don't agree with this, then please at least accept the fact
>> that different people believe different things will help the project best.
>> That's actually a good thing, since it will broaden the kind of attempts
>> that people do make to help the project to more popularity. And there are
>> quite a few people who help the project in various ways, not just
>> developers. During my time with Haiku, I observe the support getting
>> stronger. IMHO, the event with the single biggest impact will be the
>> release of the alpha. I believe we should do that one as soon as Haiku is
>> actually stable enough to do development work, regardless of how
>> easy/smooth it is to install.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> -Stephan
>>
>>
>
> If anything the progress reports are more suited to non-developers.
>
> My only opinion is that perhaps that the commit notes be more
> descriptive and readable, especially for the non-developers then we
> don't necessarily need to translate them. But then again I do have a
> reputation at work for putting essays in change notes. :)
>
> Perhaps just for the juicy commits though.
>
> Euan
>
>
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