You make good points ... but I think what I was trying to say was a bit misinterpreted (my fault, I'm lousy at saying things) I think there should be a good middle ground. It shouldn't be too simple so that there's little reason for a number of people to use it, just as it shouldn't be so complex that it keeps regular people from using it. Going on your Word and Notepad example ... there's a middle ground there. Wordpad does plain text (and doesn't choke on CRs at 80chars like Notepad will), Rich Text, and has some basic MS Word support without cluttering everything up with spellcheckers, auto formatting, text converters, etc... that's where applications should be. It's the same thing as not using a text browser like lynx for everyday browsing or using a web browser/html editor/mail composer/instant messenger/home appliance either. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Vallee" <svallee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday 06 February 2002 17.23 Subject: [openbeos] Re: OpenBeOS Applications I'm an heavy Windows user, but even with all the power of MS-Word, I still need very often NotePad. I hate the full Outlook, because I only need the Outlook Express for my needs. I think we have to be careful before under-estimating "Lite" versions of softwares. I liked Poorman & RobinHood because I needed nothing more. And I knew that if I wished to push a bigger server solution, I would has to go for Apache. Same thing for Net+. Having a full-featured browser is cool, but I REALLY don't want to load, say, Mozilla, each time I want to read an html help files in the BeBook ... no way ! - Steve