[openbeos] Re: (No Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:26:37 +0100

  • From: Niklas Nisbeth <noisetonepause@xxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:41:19 +0200

I think it's a copyright issue, yes.

I think some of the sets look more contemporary than the R5 ones, which is a plus. R5 does look a little 'old', I think.

On Sep 5, 2006, at 11:26 PM, Chris Peel wrote:


This has probably already been discussed at length so apologies in advance
if it has, but I have the following questions regarding the Haiku iconset:


1. Why not just keep them the same as BeOS R5?
2. Why not just convert them to PNG (so the dropshadow effect can be
alpha-blended)?
3. Why not just add extra sizes (48x48, 96x96, etc.)?
4. Is there some copyright issue preventing doing this?
5. Why not offer the top 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 24, whatever icon sets as
alternatives the user can select?

I'm guessing the key answer to all this is a drive to make Haiku different
from BeOS R5, although this seems a bit at odds with the driving statement
that Haiku R1 will be highly (if not completely binary) compatible with BeOS
R5? If, of course, there's a copyright issue then this makes more sense.


Just idle curiosity really...

Chris


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Okay, let's share my opinion too.

I like more perspective icons sets than flat ones, Tango included, as the
isometric icons are/was a very distinctive visual difference between BeOS
icons and others OSes icons. No wonder why many were/are still stolen to
enhance some web sites.


Among perspective icons in this contest, only the one with not-too discret
drop shadows make sense to me. BTW, zuMi's people icon head don't cast any
shadow, what's the hell is that!? ;-)


Dark borders is a must have to allow good visibility on any background
image. Non-strong bordered icons will look good only on some uniform color
background, and only lighter colors.


The tool for preferences icons is way better than a checkmark, as most often
these tools offer a way to setup and tune than just
enabling/disabling/checking, the meaning of checkmarks in my mind. The
overlay should be very distintive and in the same isometric shadow- casting
perspective as the rest of the set, which is not the case in Stippi's Screen
preflet icon BTW.


Last but not least regarding preflet standard overlay, it should be keep
very visually distintive as under BeOS. Maybe a gray color is not eyes
catcher enough for that. A tool with a colorful handle like a red- handle
screwer (red to keep some link with old BeOS red checkmark) will be better?


The Honey icons set looks great at 64x64 but seems to require a lot more
rendering time and lost pretty much all its details at 16x16.


The lego head is most probably copyrighted.

Any textual label should be drop in 16x16 size.

At last, I disagree about the needs to insert Haiku logo's colors into the
generic executable blocks colors. The current colors are more
lego-colored-blocks-like-components inspired to me than first Be logo two
colors + yellow color... But we definitly needs a better icon for AboutHaiku
app, though ;-)


- Philippe




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