[haiku] Re: If Haikuware is gone...
- From: Kit <kervas@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 23:50:34 -0600
2013/7/12 Kit <kervas@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> 2013/7/12 Luposian <luposian@xxxxxxx>
>
>> We, as a community, MUST figure out how to prevent a sudden,
>> "disappeared-off-the-face-of-the-earth" situation like this.
>>
>> I think having all the eggs in one basket, while extremely convenient,
>> also allows events like this to occur. And, if there are/were apps that we
>> wanted to get? Too late, now. No way of knowing when (or if) we'll ever
>> see them again.
>>
>> The fact there was no warning, whatsoever, tends to make one wonder just
>> what, exactly, happened. Massive power outage? DDoS attack? Did the
>> NSA/FBI/CIA confiscate the site, because Karl is actually a radical Muslim
>> spy? Or... one dare not even think this thought, but... was a HUGE bounty
>> given, and Karl took the money and ran? Anything is possible, but until
>> someone "in the know" actually speaks up, we WON'T know.
>>
>> I think we need to also have a level of quality for Haiku software
>> submitted, that keeps track of what runs and what doesn't, on what
>> revision(s) of Haiku. Setting the standard of "only the last official
>> Alpha", allows for far too many apps to break between nightly revisions
>> that span the huge gulf between official Alphas.
>>
>> Redundancy would have prevented this incident from happening. I assume
>> mirrors would prevent this from happening. Or maybe just sites with links
>> to every developer and each dev maintains their own software quality
>> control. That way, if one dev's site goes down, it doesn't throw
>> everything into a black hole.
>>
>> Just some various thoughts...
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 4S.
>>
>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Jimmy <jimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Jul 11, 2013, at 1:49 AM, pete.goodeve@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >> We haven't lost BeBits and HaikuWare, I hope...?
>> >> I followed a link to a BeBits app, and get "www.bebits.com -- site
>> not found"!
>> >> So I went to check Haikuware, and reach similar nonexistence. (:-()
>> >> (Other web access seems OK here.)
>> >>
>> >> I *really* hope this is a temporary glitch!
>> >>
>> >> -- Pete --
>> > Just to add 2 cents.. I used to get apps via BeShare back in the day.
>> Maybe we don't need a haikuware site.. Maybe just a pretty face on
>> something like BeShare to turn it into an App Store, (without a web site
>> based hub.)
>> > Beos was always about simplifying the standard models of the day..
>> > Shaka
>>
>>
>
> I agree with you on your first sentence. It is important to have
> redundancy for sites as important as those two.
> Or maybe haiku-os.org can have a sort of bare bones repository of third
> party software, a sort of backup, without having to be too advanced or
> glitzy. Perhaps a simple organized directory listing. Maybe even FTP?
>
> That said, I would like to believe that this is at worst a forgotten
> reminder, or a technical glitch.
>
> Like Matt said in a separate thread[1], Karl has proved himself
> trustworthy enough so far, that we should at least give him the benefit of
> the doubt.
>
> There is no need to go down to using an alarmist tone, even if it was the
> case that you were joking. ("radical muslim spy"? or suggesting he is an
> elaborate fraudster. C'mon. Cut him some slack)
>
> In any case, hopefully the truth is not something worse, like Pete floated
> out[2], that something could've happened to Karl.
> Hopefully he is ok and this is just a glitch, and everything will be back
> to normal, and this helps us learn how to prevent this in the future.
>
> Pete noted there are other sites that are down too.
>
> You need to realize something else too. I know there have been several
> people that have downloaded the complete BeBits website, I think there is
> even a tutorial out there to do so.
> That means that at least one or two other souls could help in restoring a
> good portion of that website.
> I can only assume someone has done something similar with Haikuware.
>
> Let's try to not be alarmist, let's find a way to avoid this in the
> future, and let's hope that everyone involved with both websites is ok.
>
> Cheers,
> - Kit
>
> (P.S. Please don't top-post :)
>
[1] //www.freelists.org/post/haiku/Haikuware-BeBits-gone-missing,7
[2] //www.freelists.org/post/haiku/Haikuware-BeBits-gone-missing,8
Other related posts:
