Koki wrote: >Different people seem to be making different interpretations of the same thing. Haiku announced a contest (headline >quoted from haiku- >os.org: "Announcing the Haiku Icon Contest"), so that's what it should be. And contests have clear winners; that is the >nature of any contest. It is a contest in that we are trying to choose the best design ideas. You have to remember this is an open source project and as such input is expected from the community. This is the main reason for the contest, to allow the public to provide input on the final design. So discussion is going to be a natural part of the process. >This was never stated in the official announcement of the contest, which is what people will go by with. It is stated : "To cut a long story short, we want to have shiny new vector icons and since Haiku is an open project, we're going to vote on the new design." It does NOT state "we're going to vote on the new icon set". Although, I do agree it could have perhaps been worded a bit differently. Some of the confusion is the result of the international scope of the project. >If this was not supposed to be a contest, then it would have been better articulated by announcing a "Haiku Icon >Debate", "Haiku Icon Counsel" or the like, clearly stating that submissions would be subject to discussion by the >community, and that the final artwork could be a combination of various submissions. >Leaving things too much open to interpretation is an invitation to confusion, and I think this is what is happening here. It's less about leaving it "open" to interpretation as it is to leave it "open" to discussion since "Haiku is an open project". It has become apparent that the response to this event is much greater than we anticipated. So as a result we have to finalize the details to avoid further confusion. This is why we greatly appreciate your comments and work on the wiki page. I have done updates on the English version. I still need to add information on the rating process. > (internal) communication leading to the decision-making would be best done off the list before anything is >announced to the outside world. I think this would best serve the goal of Haiku, as it would present a unified message >that is easier to follow. Perhaps the Being an open source project, many of the decisions are subject to discussion with the community. While there has been some discussion off the list, we felt it best that the decisions made be transparent and subject to comment on the list. Instead of waiting a month until we finalized all the details, it was felt best that we move forward with the submissions in the mean time. Perhaps that was the mistake on our part. As for declaring a winner, a "Best Design Idea" award might be appropriate. However, I believe all those who contribute their own original design ideas deserve recognition. This is all subject to discussion as well. I didn't wish to shoot down your idea about the certificate. I just wanted to state the reasons why it could be problematic. We could have people submitting all sorts of readily available icon sets just to get an award. This would not contribute to the project. Curtis