[haiku] Re: Guide to running Haiku under VirtualBox

  • From: Ryan Leavengood <leavengood@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: haiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 16:00:30 -0500

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Stephan Assmus <superstippi@xxxxxx> wrote:
> <rant>
> In many respects, Ubuntu is pretty cool and does a lot of things
> right. But for an OS with that momentum, it does releases with surprisingly
> big fuck-ups. Like the network manager not being able to remember static
> configurations. Or session management being plain utterly broken. And these
> things simply do not get fixed. Either you are lucky and they are fixed in
> the next release, or they are not even fixed then, and other surprises may
> come up. I have the feeling the only updates that releases ever receive are
> security updates. There is seldomly anything that unbreaks major mishaps like
> that. From reading some bug reports, even for bugs that affect a lot of
> users, Ubuntu does not have or is not willing to spend any resources on
> getting certain problems fixed (complain to upstream). I thought they have a
> real company and some developer resources behind Ubuntu... maybe not so much
> anymore.
> </rant>

I totally agree, now let me rant some :)

For those offended by such things I am using some foul English:

Big fuck-ups is for sure. Besides what you mentioned, when I upgraded
this ThinkPad laptop to 8.04 my sound was completely and utterly
fucked over. They added some other piece to the totally shitty Linux
sound ecosystem, called PulseAudio, which they managed to
misconfigure. So I have no sound in Flash, more CPU usage when playing
sound, and then when I bring this laptop back from sleep, some bug in
PulseAudio causes the Gnome Power Manager to suck all memory and swap
from my system within minutes, bringing it to a crashing halt. Only
the fact that the Linux kernel is decent allows me to escape this hell
(through a kill -9 of both Gnome Power Manager and PulseAudio.) Of
course then I have no sound and can't put the laptop to sleep until I
start both again.

Of course at some point between 8.04 and some other upgraded version
of Gutsy I could not even put the laptop to sleep. It would sort of
act like it, but the sleep LED would just blink and the CPU fan would
stay on. The solution? Forced power off by holding the power button.

Then of course there is the video situation. I don't know if it is
Ubuntu or X.org, but all of a sudden I cannot play certain Xvid videos
without custom options to mplayer and insane CPU usage. Also when I
upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy a while ago my X config was broken. That
is just unacceptable. Then don't even get me started on multi-monitor
support. It took me months to figure out something that barely works,
and guess what, now that I upgraded that doesn't work anymore. Of
course any kind of multi-monitor support requires hacking the
xorg.conf and restarting X. Having a GUI for that is just nuts, eh?

Ubuntu and X and sound in Linux sucks totally.


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