"Cyan" <cyanh256@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Humdinger <humdingerb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Is there a need to steal focus when auto-raising the Deskbar? Don't > > think so. > That's what I think too. Z-order and focus are two separate things. Without FFM, they pretty much are the same thing, though. [...] > When the mouse leaves the area of the deskbar, a timer starts > running. When the timer expires (perhaps one second), the Z-order of > the Deskbar is restored to wherever it was prior to raising. Yes, that doesn't sound bad (the going away part, I would actually add a short timeout in both directions). > To be honest, I don't think the Deskbar should ever receive keyboard > focus due to mouse activity (unless perhaps the menu is open, in > which case the cursor keys can be used to navigate it). Other than > that, I can't imagine the user would need to type anything into the > Deskbar? Not necessarily type, but using the keyboard to navigate it is sort of a necessity. Not that this would work yet IIRC. > I'm sure other people will have different preferences, but by > default, I think the defaults should tend towards minimal "automatic" > behaviour -- the principle of least surprise. I think it's better > for a user to be slightly irritated by a covered-up Deskbar, find the > "auto-raise" option and enable it, than it is for a user to be > startled by the auto-raise happening when they move the mouse into > that area, and needing to repeat that behaviour a few times before > they understand why it's happening. That's a good reasoning. Stephan Aßmus <superstippi@xxxxxx> wrote: > I got very used to DeskbAct and the behavior was very consistent > and wasn't triggered as a surprise. No surprise since you installed it, anyway (to follow Cyan's argument) :-) > Note, the workspace auto-raise isn't as fluent as DeskbAct either. No surprise there either, since I'm guilty of having messed that up, too :-) Bye, Axel.