While it's fascinating how everyone, me included, has an opinion on the design of visual aspects of Haiku, not every opinion is truly useful and discussion doesn't help much. Here's a little something from the FreeBSD FAQ: "Why should I care what color the bikeshed is?" http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.html#BIKESHED-PAINTING Ideally, Haiku should have an art director, or a design team, (Do we?), that would act independently, producing concepts and prototypes that could be presented and voted on if necessary. Now, since we're all pretty much individualists (I mean, we're the lunatic fringe, still here long after Jean-Louis Gassée's nipples stopped speaking to him), perhaps we all think we could fill the A.D. position. I seriously doubt that. There's much much more to it than creating a little bitmap for the Deskbar menu. Especially for R2. We should be thankful that we have at least one coder, Stephan Aßmus, who is also an artist, AFAIK. My deepest apologies to anyone else who's contributed, of which I'm unaware. :I The primary thing is too keep the visual design and user experience of Haiku coherent and consistent. One long-overdue task (afaik) is creating a new icon set which isn't copyright Palm, or whoever, that is *complete* for the Haiku standard distro. We don't want to be mistaken for yet another GNU distro (glass/bluecurve?), and we don't want mixed sets of wildly different icons. I've created/stolen/mutilated a few icons myself. I think it's hard even when you borrow parts. (The BePDF app and filetype icons are my claim to fame, and I nicked that bee somewhere.) Anyway, I'm exceptionally late for work, so I'd better cut this off right here. :] /Jonas Sundström. www.kirilla.com