On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 19:08, Karl vom Dorff <karl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I don't really care, as long as it isn't trash. It just seems the term is > from another era when most didn't have a second thought or a bad conscience > from throwing stuff away; that, and as you said - it doesn't really make > sense. The "Recycle Bin" thing had nothing to do with some eco-friendly foresight of Microsoft, but with the fact that back then they intended it to differentiate its trashbin from Mac OS's (read: needed bullet talking points to sell Windows 95) saying it could be used as a staging area for users users to move stuff from one folder to another. Of course it never worked, since Windows doesn't allow non-fixed disks to have trashes (unlike Mac OS!) and mixing actual purgeable files with temporarily tucked away files and folders is a *royal* bad idea. Needless to say, the idea never catched on (no surprise, given that it's fundamentally flawed), but the name stuck, if for no reason other than inertia. (Still, have you ever actually heard a Windows user call it anything other than "the trashbin" or "the trashcan"? I know I haven't, in English or otherwise. And I can't really say how that icon is named on other localised versions of Windows, but in the Brazilian Portuguese version it's a synonym to "trash bin", not "recycle bin". I can only imagine it's the same for a myriad other languages.) Regarding hardcopies and document formats, making printing the documentation a convoluted process wouldn't gain us any mindshare at all. And it would probably create a market for people to extract the text from the documentation and create nicely-formatted, print-friendly versions of it and probably end up selling hardcopies for profit. If we want Haiku to convey an eco-friendly message, let's have the promotional materials printed on recycled paper with soy ink. That's as far as we should go. It's not our judgement to make whether printing documentation is a waste of paper or not. For all we can tell, the user might not have used his/her printer for years, but on the other hand could use massive amounts of, say, toilet paper (!!!), and there's absolutely nothing we can do about this. :) Cheers, A.