>Yeah - I think that the STL seems a little ... over engineered for me. >Templates are an interesting idea. But they are a pain to use, make the compiler's >error strings *completely* impossible to read, and I don't even want to think >about the efficiency of the code. Plus, since they try (out of the goodness of >their hearts) to hide the algorithm, unless you find documentation about >the costs of a particular operation, you have to guess. Actually, Templates are very efficient - that's (more or less) the whole idea behind it. The code is compiled for every type you use it for. Adios... Axel.