[haiku] Re: Attribution for Haiku website design and theme
- From: "Jorge G. Mare" <koki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 09:08:34 -0700
(2010?05?12? 06:46), Stephan Assmus wrote:
Jorge, you have obviously lost all interest in civilized discussions and you
will
not refrain from jumping onto any situations where an individual is frustrated
with
a particular situation in the project, to try and drag them behind your agenda
against the supposed "in group", whoever they might be. What you write in public
forums shows your pure hatred.
At this point I don't expect you to ever get it nor acknowledge it, but
I am not spewing hatred as you want people to believe.
What I write is legitimate criticism for things that the project as a
whole or some of their leaders individually or collectively have done.
It simply annoys you and your friends that I write these things, because
it exposes both incompetence and arrogance, so you retaliate in subtle
and not so subtle ways.
To prove that I am not blowing hot air, here are some specific examples
of things that I have criticized and that I have been frowned upon for
bringing up:
* Cancellation of WalterCon 2007 without notice and before registration
deadline, leaving people with non-refundable tickets and nowhere to go.
Feel free to read this thread to see how angry that made the community:
//www.freelists.org/post/haiku/way-to-go-on-waltercon-linuxworld
* Not supporting and in fact chiding at the community effort that ensued
in lieu of the WalterCon cancellation fiasco.
* Forcing us to use a logo different from HAIKU on handout CDs at the
above event.
* Spending $1K+ to send Michael Phipps to give a BoF talk to three people.
* Ignoring the initial Haiku Bounty effort, chastising Karl for it and
even insinuating that what he did was probably illegal. Of course, this
came after the fact that the project took the $2K+ that Karl raised in
his "allegedly failed and most probably illegal" effort "where he
mislead people to do what was impossible". This is what then project
leader Michael Phipps said back then...
Michael Phipps at //www.freelists.org/post/haiku/Openness,13
One individual had an idea to support Haiku. He suggested it. I told
him that I didn't think that it was a good idea. He decided to create
a site and do it on his own. He convinced people to donate for things
that COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE DONE. If that had been intentional on his
part, it would have been FRAUD. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WAS
INTENTIONAL, but that's the sort of issue we are looking at. He was
demoralized because no one could/would take on tasks that were
ENORMOUS or ILLEGAL. He demanded recognition for something that NEVER
SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. He was chastised (not by me, I will add)
because people don't respond well to demands.
How wrong was he, not to mention all the nonsensical illegality
allegations that were nothing but lame excuses for dropping the ball.
* People attributing themselves an authority that they do now have;
i.e., Matt Madia changing website permissions without notice and without
a clue of what he was doing; he made changes that he did not even
understand and when pointed out, the usual politically motivated
backslash ensued.
* Enabling and sometimes even justifying unwarranted cursing at other
contributors in the public mailing lists.
* Forcing a recognized contributor with a long track record of
contributions to have to write 100+ emails before he can get a
commitment to fund a $150 print job.
* The project allowing and in fact enabling with their silence
unwarranted attacks in the form of foul language such as "go fuck
yourselves" directed at everyone on the discussion and "fuck you"
directed at my person.
//www.freelists.org/post/haiku/Reducing-paper-waste-at-conferences,14
* Being so pedantic to the point of turning eager contributors
(specifically translators) away because of a rule that is obviously broken.
So, contrary to what you keep trying to make everyone here believe, I am
not spewing hatred towards you, Michael Phipps or anybody else. I just
have a critical eye for the things that happen in the project. This is
what you and your friends have always refused to acknowledge.
On the topic of me pushing people out of the project, you are making me
the scapegoat: not only does this work both ways, but you should also
acknowledge that others have left the project before I was even here,
and it was not because you were nice to them.
Regards,
Jorge / aka Koki
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