[haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support
- From: Christian Seibold <krixano@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Logen Kain <logen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "haiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <haiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 00:55:43 +0000
1.) Why are people on here acting like they know what the other developers want
to do?
2.) "Even if thousands or millions of users downloaded and used haiku, we still
wouldn't earn a dollar from it."
You'd earn more publicity, which increases your chances of getting donations.
This is simple statistics. People can't donate if they don't first know what to
donate to. However, I agree that more users doesn't necessarily mean a system
is good, etc. Which brings me to my next few points:
3.) "Because this is what free software is about. It's lots of people doing
something that interests them, for fun."
Apparently, there's nothing fun about working on features that other people
want? Rust has rfc's that users can make to get their ideas implemented into
the language. Many *open source* projects work on features that are requested
by users, *including* small projects (4Coder, my own projects, ...). Why else
do you think we have GitHub issues and other bug-reporting systems? If nobody
wants to work on this, fine - you just won't have the ability to watch Netflix
yourself. If that's what you want, then develop the feature. If you want other
users who want this feature to have this feature, develop it!
4.) "Try a thousand days work each by a thousand people. That is a more
realistic figure."
This is a major exaggeration. Don't be fooled people.
5.) "whataboutery" is useful. It's called *goals*. Even Haiku has a goal, or
have you all forgotten? To be a Personal Computing OS - it's listed on the
homepage. If your goal isn't that, but rather to be an OS *only* for the Haiku
devs, then maybe you should change what the homepage says? Just a suggestion.
Additionally, it's very well known that the majority of Personal Computing
involves streaming and social media - which means maybe you all should work on
getting a decent browser first.
6.) "I'd ask you what is the wisdom in spending dozens, or hundreds, of hours
on adding support for a third-party proprietary service when the core
functionality of the OS is volatile?"
Can I ask you why people are spending a ton of time porting over applications
when apparently the OS isn't "stable" enough for them? Additionally, isn't the
beta label supposed to be used to show that the core OS functionality has been
implemented and the next step is to stabilize it (meaning, fix bugs)? (I
actually don't know how you all are using alpha vs. beta labels).
Does it matter much *when* this feature is implemented? Kinda. If you develop
it now, there's a greater chance of it breaking in the future due to api
changes, etc. However, if you start it in the future, there's less chance of it
breaking and needing fixing. *But*, we're in Beta now, right? Not Alpha. I
can't remember how much significance beta vs. alpha brings, as I can't quite
remember what these labels mean to the Haiku devs.
Additionally, since when is developing an application or developing a feature
in an application (for example, DRM in webpositive) even related to developing
the OS? As in, is there not a separation of developers between the applications
and the OS? And if not, is there not a difference between apps and the os. The
apps use the API of the OS. The API is a smaller surface area of the OS that
applications are allowed to touch, that's the whole purpose of an API.
7.) Finally, one main point I wanted to make, even if it's a small point: "If
it was 3 hours of work, it would have been done long ago already."
This... is a complete load of crap. I hope that's all I really need to say
about that, as it should be fairly obvious and supported by common sense, and
anyone whose had experience with working on any project, even unrelated to
programming, would know this.
________________________________
From: haiku-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <haiku-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
Logen Kain <logen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 4:31 PM
To: haiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish:
aport of kodi would add netflix support
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 05:54:24PM +0100, Dick wrote:
i do not agree.
why did peopel not embrace ubuntu when windows xp support ended? because it
did not offer all features windows offered out of the box. average users do
not want to spend time reading tutorials and howto-pages, it just has to
work.
There are a lot of reasons people didn't embrace Ubuntu when XP support ended.
To reduce it to "Linux is hard" isn't being fair. There's not a ton of brand
recognition outside of technical people. Heck, most people that aren't
technical didn't care and just kept running it anyway and used whatever the
next thing they happened to buy ran. Many people simply run iOS/Android these
days.
- References:
- [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support
- [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support
- [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support
- [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support
- [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support
- [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support
- [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support
- [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support
- [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support
- [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support
- [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support
Other related posts:
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Matty Dev
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Dick
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Charlie Clark
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Dick
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Glenn Holmer
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Dick
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Glenn Holmer
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Dick
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Logen Kain
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- spinach williams
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Charlie Clark
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Dick
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Stephan AÃmus
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Adrien Destugues
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Dick
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Charlie Clark
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Dick
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- spinach williams
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Adrien Destugues
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Glenn Holmer
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Nicholas L. Otley
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Dick
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Humdinger
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Steven Perszyk
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Dick
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Liam Proven
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Adrien Destugues
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Dick
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Charlie Clark
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Humdinger
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Logen Kain
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Logen Kain
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support - Christian Seibold
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Dan MacDonald
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Adrien Destugues
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Liam Proven
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Liam Proven
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Liam Proven
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- spinach williams
- » [haiku] Re: AW: Re: another idea from me, sorry if it is foolish: aport of kodi would add netflix support- Liam Proven