[haiku-inc] Re: Updating the donat-o-meter...
- From: "Michael Phipps" <michael.phipps@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-inc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 19:34:58 -0400
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From: "Karl vom Dorff" [karlvd@xxxxxxxxx]
Date: 09/30/2014 20:23
To: haiku-inc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [haiku-inc] Re: Updating the donat-o-meter...
It is nice to hear from you Michael. I am sorry, maybe I got over passionate
about this subject - I just read into a lot of the comments here very
differently. 8/18 bounties were completed or partially completed (mind you
these had definitive goals), and one is in progress. I wouldnt call that a huge
failure. Even for the bounties that were not completed, the money was pooled
together for and donated for future Haiku contracts. So, I dont know which
system is better, I was just saying it did work. For comparison sake, it would
be interesting what the success rate is for GSOC (because they are similar).
I just think that if Haiku collects the money automatically anyways, they could
try something different. At least try something. Having the corporation sit on
assets for six months when nobody knows there are assets there that could have
been used is frustrating. Part of the problem is the way Haiku Inc. is run
IMHO. I have written a separate email in that regard.
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Hi Karl!
Nice to hear from you too. Since the very beginning of Haiku, the paperwork has
never been a priority. I know that you and I have some past history with that,
sadly. That still bothers me, you know.
As for the bounties, that's 50/50. Better than I thought, but it still means
that you have to hold a good bit of money and judge a number of projects. I
would still not take it on, personally. The group pretty much agrees that
funding people "full time" as contractors is a better choice for the people
involved. Sorry you don't agree (no, really I am - I LOVE consensus and hate
argument).
The date in the bylaws, unless I remember wrongly, for the elections is Haiku's
birthday (8/18).
There is NOTHING that I know of that says that any of this has to be made
public, incidentally. Not that I advocate for a secret society of some kind,
but as far as I know, the meetings can be between members only. And since Haiku
Inc has members consisting solely of the board, that means that none of us have
to be made aware of any of the minutes or anything. I speak from a (semi-legal)
point of view, not from a "what do I think would be best" point of view.
When I wrote up the bylaws, originally, I wrestled over the idea of elections
and membership. I couldn't see a way to make a membership that means something.
I would propose that, rather than talking about "was a meeting held" and "are
the bylaws legal", it would be more productive to talk about what you would
like to see done differently. We know that you are a fan of the bounties, but
you will have to admit that the current board doesn't want to do it. Maybe they
are all boring people or whatever, but they aren't interested. You win some and
you lose some. What else would you like to see Haiku doing? What changes would
YOU like to see in the bylaws? How would you like to run the group.
Don't get caught up in the details of things that don't matter. If the paper
work isn't in order, NY state and the officers will deal with it. Let's use
this list to make a set of POSITIVE changes. What things would you like to see
the organization doing? What kind of fund raisers can we think of (and do
without overworking the board)? How can we make Haiku, Inc better?
Michael
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