[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku?
- From: James Leone <linuxcpa@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:24:11 -0700
Real deal is the guys have tried too hqrd... do too many things to make
things good that nothing really works.
Its like they are trying to make the fastest racecar that has the most fuel
efficient engine ever.
On Aug 21, 2014 8:11 AM, "Alexander von Gluck IV" <kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> On , Paweł Dziepak wrote:
>
>> 2014-08-21 15:15 GMT+02:00 Alexander von Gluck IV
>> <kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>> On , Ingo Weinhold wrote:
>>> On 20.08.2014 18:26, Sia Lang wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ryan Leavengood
>>> <leavengood@xxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:leavengood@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> It is a lot to ask the Haiku community to abandon our current
>>> approach
>>> for what sounds like a prototype.
>>>
>>> Totally agree, I'm not asking anyone to jump ship and join me.
>>>
>>> I am however asking the Haiku community to consider if the kernel
>>> choice
>>> made 14 years ago still makes sense. It's painful to leave a huge
>>> amount
>>> of work behind in the dust, but there's still so much Haiku work
>>> that
>>> would have a great life on top of a Linux or BSD based BeOS. With
>>> all
>>> the up-sides mentioned before (busses and drivers abound!)
>>>
>>> Unless I miss someone, of the Haiku developers (counting committers
>>> only) who posted in this thread no one strictly opposed the idea of
>>> switching to another kernel and most even seem to consider this an
>>> interesting option.
>>>
>>
>> -1
>>
>> Fixing the few remaining kernel bugs and getting a release out is
>> more
>> important than trying to move everything over to a Linux kernel
>> (which would
>> likely push any further releases back *years* given our current
>> workforce.)
>>
>> Yes, it is rough to keep up with hardware drivers. However it can be
>> done and
>> we do support a *lot* of hardware at the moment. Do we support the
>> latest
>> fancy IceWire 2015 hardware? No. (that wasn't a real thing btw)
>>
>> Do we support enough hardware for day-to-day desktop use? I think
>> so.
>>
>> We've crossed the catch 22 of kernel design. We support the
>> *basics*, now
>> lets get a solid release out to attract developers who like Haiku
>> enough to
>> make them *want* to write drivers for their shiny new IceWire 2015
>> hardware.
>>
>> It is not only about drivers (though it would be nice to have a proper
>> power management), but also about much better performance (especially
>> in terms of scaling on multicore processors) and features (e.g. kvm,
>> lvm).
>>
>
>
> Here is a quick survey to get peoples feelings on this (public results)
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1idhhOv9uSy9Dpp_8xQez-
> jtPtbZEItAChYBwsk7cgoI/viewform?usp=send_form
>
> -- Alex
>
>
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