Hi there, I would like to have us voting on what optional packages should be included with the alpha release. IMO, those should mostly go away once we have a real package manager, though. As usual, only core Haiku developers votes are counted (those with commit access), though I would like to include the other core members, like Urias, Jorge, Scott, and Matt into this, too (please note if I left someone out, this is certainly not on purpose). Anyway, I'm torn a bit, but I would like to include the following (alphabetically): BeBook, BePDF, CVS, Development, Firefox, OpenSSH, Pe, P7zip, Subversion, Nano, Welcome ("Nano" would mean that vim should be removed from the image, and repository, which was the plan anyway, as discussed earlier) Thus, I would like to make this a developer centric release. If that's not what we agree on doing, the other candidates for inclusion would be IMO: Clockwerk, Vision, WonderBrush I don't think any other package should be considered, at least, but YMMV. I would like everyone to give his list of packages that should end up in the alpha image here. I would suggest only putting items in that 2/ 3rds want to put in. I would like to end the vote by Thursday 12:00 UTC. Bye, Axel.