[haiku-development] Re: Testing the poll
- From: "scott mc" <scottmc2@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:29:54 -0700
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Jorge Mare <kokitomare@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Niels Reedijk <niels.reedijk@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2008/8/25 Jorge Mare <kokitomare@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>> Could there be a kind of "official contributor" status that would have
>>>>> more rights, just like the "svn commiters" ?
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> IMHO there is no doubt that Jorge qualifies for that.
>>>> Who else should get the right to vote?
>>>
>>> I was not actually thinking only about myself.
>>>
>>> I can think of a few individuals that do not have SVN write access,
>>> but that have made enough contributions to deserve a voice; for
>>> example, Urias M. comes to mind.
>>
>> I actually have a half fininished mail draft about his. Sorry, the new
>> job just eats my time during the week and since it's an internship I
>> also have to work during the weekend.
>>
>> The gist of that message is that what this poll is about, is the bare
>> minimum requirements that the alpha should contain in order to be
>> released (this doesn't go for the software, but nevertheless). In my
>> idea, this was code-wise, so the proposals about marketing are out of
>> place there, at least according to my gut-feeling. Please, this is an
>> experiment, so forgive me for my naivity.
>>
>> The implication of this assumption is that almost everything is
>> relative, so for example, if the GCC 2/4 hybrid doesn't get enough
>> votes to be required for alpha 1, but it is finished in time, then why
>> not include it anyway. I understand that some could people feel
>> differently.
>>
>> The poll is designed with the idea that the developers would be the
>> decision making body after the leadership transition from the admins
>> to Haiku inc and the development team. Naturally, since things are
>> still developing in that area, I understand the confusion.
>
> I don't think there is any confusion, nor has this anything to do with
> being admins, part of Haiku Inc. or the development team. This was not
> meant to be an us and/or them situation, nor should we make it one;
> admins, developers, non-developers, Haiku Inc. etc.: we are all the
> same.
>
> I raised the issue because, in general, I think that the "you have to
> be a Haiku developer" criteria to vote (or to edit the wiki, for that
> matter) is both flawed and exclusionary, as it includes a lot of
> people that may have not been involved with Haiku for many years and
> leaves out of the process developers and non-developers who are
> currently contributing, some quite substantially, as well as people
> who will be doing work for the alpha 1 release out of the process.
>
> IOW, whether one has write access to SVN alone should not be the
> criteria to be included/excluded from the voting.
>
>> I'm not quite sure how to proceed. Do we select a number of additional
>> voters? The question is, if yes, what criteria. Do we drop all the
>> non-development related requests? If so, how do we honour these
>> requests in a later/different stage?
>>
>> Personally, I say, let's keep this voting a developer thing. We can
>> evaluate later what things work, and what didn't. In the same sense
>> that's the nature of an alpha: what works, and what needs more work.
>
> I disagree. At the very least, give those who adopt tasks for the
> alpha 1 release voting rights and the ability to edit the wiki (so
> that they can edit/make notes on their respective tasks). As axel
> said, those who will do the work should have a voice.
>
> Jorge
>
>
Here's the short list of non-developers who are on the "adopted by" task list:
Jorge, Urias,HaikuPorts (Scott McCreary and Andreas Färber),
and possibly Grzegorz Dabrowski (Kaliber) who is the one behind "box".
Did I miss anyone who signed up and isn't a dev with svn access?
Personally, I'd be ok to just have a single vote from HaikuPorts, and
would defer that to Andreas. Either way we should figure it out, make
a decision and not lose another week. We need to keep our eye on the
goal here.
-scottmc
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