[haiku-development] Re: Testing the poll
- From: Sikosis <sikosis@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:31:36 +1000
Hi,
Was the poll taken down ? Just curious, cos when I log in ... I see a blank
page.
Cheers
Sikosis
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:29 AM, scott mc <scottmc2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Jorge Mare <kokitomare@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Niels Reedijk <niels.reedijk@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> 2008/8/25 Jorge Mare <kokitomare@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>>> Could there be a kind of "official contributor" status that would
> have
> >>>>> more rights, just like the "svn commiters" ?
> >>>>
> >>>> +1
> >>>>
> >>>> IMHO there is no doubt that Jorge qualifies for that.
> >>>> Who else should get the right to vote?
> >>>
> >>> I was not actually thinking only about myself.
> >>>
> >>> I can think of a few individuals that do not have SVN write access,
> >>> but that have made enough contributions to deserve a voice; for
> >>> example, Urias M. comes to mind.
> >>
> >> I actually have a half fininished mail draft about his. Sorry, the new
> >> job just eats my time during the week and since it's an internship I
> >> also have to work during the weekend.
> >>
> >> The gist of that message is that what this poll is about, is the bare
> >> minimum requirements that the alpha should contain in order to be
> >> released (this doesn't go for the software, but nevertheless). In my
> >> idea, this was code-wise, so the proposals about marketing are out of
> >> place there, at least according to my gut-feeling. Please, this is an
> >> experiment, so forgive me for my naivity.
> >>
> >> The implication of this assumption is that almost everything is
> >> relative, so for example, if the GCC 2/4 hybrid doesn't get enough
> >> votes to be required for alpha 1, but it is finished in time, then why
> >> not include it anyway. I understand that some could people feel
> >> differently.
> >>
> >> The poll is designed with the idea that the developers would be the
> >> decision making body after the leadership transition from the admins
> >> to Haiku inc and the development team. Naturally, since things are
> >> still developing in that area, I understand the confusion.
> >
> > I don't think there is any confusion, nor has this anything to do with
> > being admins, part of Haiku Inc. or the development team. This was not
> > meant to be an us and/or them situation, nor should we make it one;
> > admins, developers, non-developers, Haiku Inc. etc.: we are all the
> > same.
> >
> > I raised the issue because, in general, I think that the "you have to
> > be a Haiku developer" criteria to vote (or to edit the wiki, for that
> > matter) is both flawed and exclusionary, as it includes a lot of
> > people that may have not been involved with Haiku for many years and
> > leaves out of the process developers and non-developers who are
> > currently contributing, some quite substantially, as well as people
> > who will be doing work for the alpha 1 release out of the process.
> >
> > IOW, whether one has write access to SVN alone should not be the
> > criteria to be included/excluded from the voting.
> >
> >> I'm not quite sure how to proceed. Do we select a number of additional
> >> voters? The question is, if yes, what criteria. Do we drop all the
> >> non-development related requests? If so, how do we honour these
> >> requests in a later/different stage?
> >>
> >> Personally, I say, let's keep this voting a developer thing. We can
> >> evaluate later what things work, and what didn't. In the same sense
> >> that's the nature of an alpha: what works, and what needs more work.
> >
> > I disagree. At the very least, give those who adopt tasks for the
> > alpha 1 release voting rights and the ability to edit the wiki (so
> > that they can edit/make notes on their respective tasks). As axel
> > said, those who will do the work should have a voice.
> >
> > Jorge
> >
> >
>
> Here's the short list of non-developers who are on the "adopted by" task
> list:
> Jorge, Urias,HaikuPorts (Scott McCreary and Andreas Färber),
> and possibly Grzegorz Dabrowski (Kaliber) who is the one behind "box".
> Did I miss anyone who signed up and isn't a dev with svn access?
> Personally, I'd be ok to just have a single vote from HaikuPorts, and
> would defer that to Andreas. Either way we should figure it out, make
> a decision and not lose another week. We need to keep our eye on the
> goal here.
> -scottmc
>
>
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