[haiku-development] Re: R1 (Final) General Interest poll closed. Results posted. ...

  • From: "Adrien Destugues" <adestugu@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:08:35 +0100

> I suspect a large percentage of the poll-takers don't even know if
> their hardware is supported by one of Haiku's existing video drivers,
> and as a result were unable to make an informed choice on that
> particular question.

I think it's cheating to ignore the result telling people 'anyway, you 
didn't understand the question'. A lot of people have or had problems 
with video mode setting. I know my work on intel_extreme helped some of 
them (including myself).

People were allowed to tell they didn't understand the question. So, 
why would they have checked an answer anyway ?

We have to face it : there are some hardware problems still here, and 
it's part of what prevented BeOS from being really successful back in 
the last century. We have to take it into account and set up a plan of 
action. Or, we may decide to ignore it anyway, but I don't think that's 
a good move.

For intel_extreme and radeon the problem is not so hard to solve : the 
hardware is well documented, and there's xorg code at hand for 
reference. For nvidia, I don't think there are available specs (unless 
I missed something), so it's a bit more difficult.

While Haiku may happen to work on your computer, I have a 0% success 
rate on mine (a Dell inspiron 1525 and an IBM Thinkpad T60). Both had 
problem when I got them and I had to fix the driver to get them 
working. It's worth noting that a lot of other devs are using T60s and 
have no problem with them. These two computers are built around the 
GMA965, which is now rather old and deprecated. I think any new 
computer you can buy will have unsupported video hardware. Seeing that 
R1 is not happenning now, the situation will be even worse when we hit 
the market. And the OS not being able to show up in the right video 
mode is a good reason to not keep it around on modern flat panel 
scrrens (on CRTs it was is not a problem as big).

With the specs available, and the hardware at hand, writing a driver is 
not a very long task if you only do mode setting and framebuffer 
access. I think we could get the hardware founded by the NPO or even 
lended by users willing to get the driver done. In some cases it may 
even be possible to work remotely using ssh to a user's box.


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